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To: SoothingDave
When did Mary say she was sinful?

The moment she stated that she needed a savior. But then you already know this from time immemorial. Can't get around it. One who is utterly without sin does not need a savior to save them from their sin. One cannot be saved from that which does not exist. But that's not the only absurd paradox your faulty logic renders.

Excuse me if I don't agree with your notions of what the "Bible" asserts.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Who says you have to disagree with me when you're so good at calling scripture a lie. We might as well just point out that the contradiction lies between your philosophy and scripture. I have nothing to do with it. You're arguing with God's word as set down into Holy Scripture by Paul the Apostle. When you square off on this, you call God and Paul both liars in one shot. That's blasphemy and disagreement with an Annointed apostle of the Lord. You like picking big fights don't you. And no fear of God in you to make you hold your tongue rather than accuse God. I'm not impressed. Your assertion that Mary was protected from sin (not allowed to sin of her own will) Is a blatent and direct accusation against God of breaking his own law as well. Blasphemy again. Which is why you and I don't much get along - because you know this and continue in the error.

47,595 posted on 04/21/2003 8:03:50 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
When did Mary say she was sinful?

The moment she stated that she needed a savior. But then you already know this from time immemorial. Can't get around it. One who is utterly without sin does not need a savior to save them from their sin. One cannot be saved from that which does not exist. But that's not the only absurd paradox your faulty logic renders.

You are the only one with faulty logic. The rational world recognizes that one can be saved from error before such error is committed.

If I double check your prescription and find that it would have reacted to an allergy and killed you, I have certainly "saved" you just as much as if I had to perform an emergency procedure to "save" you had you ingested the wrong medicine.

Mary was saved from the pit of sin by never falling in, instead of being lifted out. The effect is the same -- she was saved. But she did not sin, though she would have sinned, had she not been saved first.

This is so elementary it is a wonder anyone even questions it.

sD

47,606 posted on 04/21/2003 8:12:40 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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