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I haven't bothered to consider the implications yet for the catholics. I was too stunned when I pieced it all together to even care. So have fun with it - bat it around for a while. And gimme some input if you would.

Very interesting. I have been attacked for claiming there was no big C Catholic Church prior to Constantine. Also, there is no record that Constantine ever became a Christian. The "deathbed" conversion is a story without proof.

I thought you had disappeared. Stay around for a while.

Very interesting. I have been attacked for claiming there was no big C Catholic Church prior to Constantine. Also, there is no record that Constantine ever became a Christian. The "deathbed" conversion is a story without proof. I thought you had disappeared. Stay around for a while.

Yeah, I've been in trouble for that before too. But now I have more to go with it than a notation of the absence of any factual notation of the name prior to Constantine and actually, prior to Theodosius. It's taken a long time to get to the bottom of things; but, it's coming together. The name came with theodosius. And by studying Constantine, it is possible to see the stage being set for Catholicism to be possible. All of the elements are right there to explain all the things we all note and complain about but can't understand - ie the vast error and where it was all rooted combined with a notion of a centralized human authority. It's all right there in the history and always has been.

As for my absence - I've just been following politics and settling into my new home. Not to mention working on finding a future mrs. havoc. LOL. It's a tall order.