[newgeezer]

But, thank the Lord, I am not left to my own devices.

(Again with these hyperpious implications.) Neither am I.

You have still not even attempted to address how Jesus redeems humanity if he is not one of us

I would never suggest such a thing. It is written,

Philippians 2
⁶who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, ⁷but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. ⁸And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.

Many more times than any other title, He calls Himself is "Son of Man."

[SoothingDave]

You have still not even attempted to address how Jesus redeems humanity if he is not one of us

I would never suggest such a thing. It is written,

Philippians 2
6who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.

Can you attempt to answer the question? Or is it that you do not understand it? I fear so.

You see, God made Adam. Adam fell. We are all desecnded from Adam.

Orthodox Christianity believes that God took this humanity, from Mary, and united it to Himself in the person of Jesus.

Jesus, through His perfect obedience to God enabled us to be redeemed. He was the perfect human.

Now, if you do nto believe that God took humanity from Mary in order to unite man to Himself, then where did He get the humanity?

If He created a new humanity, unrelated to the old, then how could Jesus have redeemed the old humanity?

If He was not related to us, not a human of Adam's line, then how is He our Savior?

SD