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To: newgeezer
But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law (Galatians 4:4, RSV)

That would appear to be a good catch, if it weren't for the fact that the manuscripts use different words. (As is so often the case, the RSV is flawed.)

So, it's not a question of the RSV, but of which underlying text is used.

In Matt. 11:11, the Lord uses the word "gennetos" which means "born." The word appears 2 times in the NT. Its root "gennao" appears 97 times in the NT, and always relates to birth. A few of those 97 do say Jesus was born -- e.g. of God (1Jn 5:1) -- but, I can't find where any of them says He was "gennao" of woman, or of man.

In Gal. 4:4, it is the word "ginomai" which means "made." The word appears 677 times in the NT and, in addition to "made," is translated most often as "came to pass." Never does it relate to birth.

OK, even if we buy that there are two different words, what does this tell us?

What does it mean that Jesus is "made" of woman? Does that mean He is created? What does it tell us?

You have done nothing other than changing the language from English to Greek. You have not explained what you think "made" means?

SD

46,878 posted on 04/15/2003 10:34:20 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; malakhi
It is not an accident that the bible consistently says He was born of God and made of a woman. Words mean things.

One cannot honestly dismiss the possibility that her ovum was not involved, that God provided both parts of Him who was conceived in her womb.

There is no biblical requirement or evidence for the involvement of her egg. In fact, if words mean things, there is biblical evidence to support the position that it was not.

46,885 posted on 04/15/2003 11:04:38 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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