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To: biblewonk
First:

Mat:125 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Any normal reading of this shows that they had sex after Jesus was born.

Then:

Mal:So you would hold that the following is not a messianic passage?

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. (Genesis 3:15, KJV)

It is messianic but seed has many different meanings as we are seeing father has many different meanings.

Ah, so. Maybe one day, the wonk will learn that "till" has many different meanings as well. We can only pray.

SD

46,777 posted on 04/15/2003 6:27:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; biblewonk
Ah, so. Maybe one day, the wonk will learn that "till" has many different meanings as well. We can only pray.

I didn't have steak till I got home last night.

Guess what I had for supper after I got home last night?

46,784 posted on 04/15/2003 6:56:37 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: SoothingDave; biblewonk; ksen
Ah, so. Maybe one day, the wonk will learn that "till" has many different meanings as well.

Granted, it does not specifically say that he ever knew her after she gave birth.

But, guess what? Her death was never recorded, either. So, why not run with that, and build a big Mary-was-bodily-assumed-into-Heaven doctrine?! Hey, wait...they did that already.

The RC system builds its towers of babel where the bible is SILENT (foundations of sinking sand). Their doctrines are man-made. These are beyond interpretations. They're extra-biblical fabrications.

It would make just as much or even more sense to insist she had blonde hair (unless it's recorded somewhere that she didn't.)

Someone please let me know if there is a third meaning for "till" which lends credence to her alleged perpetual virginity.

46,799 posted on 04/15/2003 7:47:37 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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