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To: Invincibly Ignorant
A belief in the resurrection and return qualifies Him as the Son of God with diety.

I don't see this as necessarily the case. I think God could resurrect and return anyone he wanted, whether the person was God or just a man. I also think that "Son of God" does not necessarily imply deity.

For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. (Romans 8:14)

Not saying that the other interpretations are not possible, only that there are alternative ways of looking at it.

For no human alone is able to save. This concept may perhaps seem outside the bounds of Pharisaic Judaism but not Biblical Judaism.

I think it depends on what you mean by "save", here.

Just so we all know its you that insinuated the nasty word "hellenization" in the above and not me. :-)

There is no question about it. Judea was occupied by the Romans. The kings/governors and the high priests served at the pleasure of the Romans. They were chosen because they were willing to collaborate. Most of the rest of the population -- the lesser priests, the Pharisees, the typical Shlomo on the street -- either endured Roman rule or in some way worked to oppose it.

46,030 posted on 04/02/2003 8:50:30 AM PST by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: malakhi
I don't see this as necessarily the case. I think God could resurrect and return anyone he wanted, whether the person was God or just a man. I also think that "Son of God" does not necessarily imply deity.

I know you don't and its true God can resurect and return anyone. I believe the Messiah has diety based upon OT scripture specifically the ones you've attempted to refute already, such as "Immanuel" and "virgin" and also those 4 books of intertestimal writings that ascribe diety to the Messiah. These were written well before Jesus arrived and qualify as pre-christian writings. Namely, Enoch chapters 37-71, Psalms of Solomon, The Damascus Document, 4 Ezra & 2 Baruch. I'd still be interested in the official Rabinical stance on these.

46,033 posted on 04/02/2003 9:05:35 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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