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To: OLD REGGIE
100 The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him.
Now define "solely" and tell me where you fit in.

You will note it makes no difference whether the magisterium has spoken or not. you are not trusted to interpret the Word of God!

Again, you just don’t get it. You clearly don’t care to discuss this with an open mind. You’ve made up your mind that 2+2=6, and nobody will ever change it.

What you are doing, is not only strip mining one quote and reading it out of context, you are now strip mining one word out of that brief quote, and reading it as the sole support of your “solely” position. You totally ignore the meaning other words, such as “authentically” have on that sentence. The sentence above means that the laity cannot speak finally on an interpretation, and cannot bind the rest of the Church. Only the Magisterium can do that. But you aren’t willing to accept that. Instead you put an interpretation on it that just plain doesn’t make sense when read with the rest of the document.

That is nearly always a sign you messed up in your interpretation, but instead of seeing that warning sign, and instead of listening to what actual Catholics say about their belief system, you charge right ahead assuming you are right and we are wrong.

News flash: we know what we believe better than you do. We know the Catholic faith better than you do. And when your oddball interpretation of one phrase conflicts with both the remainder of the book, and with what actual Catholics do and say, then you are being dishonest when you refuse to consider that.

As to defining solely and telling you where we fit in, I’ve previously explained that. You just don’t read so well, or you keep ignoring it.

You will note it makes no difference whether the magisterium has spoken or not. you are not trusted to interpret the Word of God!
No, I don’t note that. I note that you have no idea what you are talking about, and you don’t have any interest in an honest discussion on this. I leave the field to you and your fantasy about what Catholicism is. I’m done with this discussion.

patent  +AMDG

28,623 posted on 12/07/2002 5:46:50 PM PST by patent
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To: patent
News flash: we know what we believe better than you do. We know the Catholic faith better than you do. And when your oddball interpretation of one phrase conflicts with both the remainder of the book, and with what actual Catholics do and say, then you are being dishonest when you refuse to consider that.

WE KNOW

Just who is included in this WE

I’m done with this discussion.

I'm not surprised. You simply can't deal with those who question your all knowing.

28,635 posted on 12/08/2002 9:21:52 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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