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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
The Neverending Story
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To: OLD REGGIE
I might take you more seriously if you hadn't bragged so much about your early rebellion against Catholic authority. Any 15 year old can say "t'aint necessarily so..."
To: AlguyA
Don't know. Spooked as a child I guess. My mom used to keep a very large one in the house. It looked like it followed me with the eyes. I would hurry past it and hated to go in the house by myself. Jesus in my home but no pictures. I see Him as more loving but stronger.
To: drstevej
"I don't deny the validity of the arts in contemplation and worship. I do find the study of the Bible clearly superior." I suspect we are in agreement here, then. Sorry, I'm still a little shaken by the encounter about which I recently spoke. The dismissiveness of the individual involved when I tried to explain just why the Church had fostered a particular devotion to the Sacred Heart, given its intense biblical basis,(and given the relative unavailability of books for much of the first fifteen centuries of Christianity) was truly depressing. She didn't want to talk about it at all, really. She was much more interested in explaining how the Church's view of women had led to generations of repression, etc. Frankly, I strongly suspect you and most other posters here at FR would probably have found her tiresome, also.
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04/28/2003 6:16:30 PM PDT
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AlguyA
(A picture is worth a thousand words.)
To: drstevej
You might want to check out Menno Simons (16th century Anabaptist) who held to the doctrine of the celestial flesh of Christ [i.e. Jesus brought his flesh from heaven and was born in but not of Mary] Isn't this also an early(2nd century) gnostic teaching?
To: AlguyA
No problem. I'm sure there is lots for us to disagree about, but we'll save that for another time. I am alarmed at the number of both Protestants and Catholics who do not study the Bible for themselves. What a forfeited blessing.
One observation that occurred to me. I find most Catholics have pictures and statues in their homes, whereas most Protestants I know do not. Instead they have verses done in caligraphy that are framed and displayed.
To: CindyDawg
'Don't know. Spooked as a child I guess. My mom used to keep a very large one in the house. It looked like it followed me with the eyes. I would hurry past it and hated to go in the house by myself." Interesting how things affect us as children. We didn't have any religious art in our house. I find the statue endearing. We also have a bas-relief of the Holy Family in our kitchen, crucifixes throughout the house, etc.
When I was a kid, all I knew about the Lord was what I heard in the church I started attending at about the age of sixteen. There, I learned I was going to Hell unless I made "a decision for the Lord." And if I didn't make the right decision, didn't have just enough water come into contact with my body, didn't read the right translation of the Bible, didn't come up with just the right answer on the 'pre-trib,' 'mid-trib,' 'post-trib' test, then I obviously HADN'T made a "true" decision for Christ.
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AlguyA
(A picture is worth a thousand words.)
To: RobbyS
I'm not sure. My recollection is that gnosticism viewed the material world as evil/inferior and Menno did not have this perspective. Any similarity may arise from different rationales.
However, it has been a while since I read Menno. I am much more familiar with his doctrine of salvatin and ecclesiology since my dissertation dealt with these topics. Menno was one of the brighter lights among the Anabaptists.
To: ventana
James Adair's History of the American Indians (1775) is an interesting piece of ethnology, but he was convinced that
the language of the southeastern indians was related to Hebrew. Of course, he was wrong.
To: drstevej
Menno was one of the best, most decent men to be found in any party during the religious strife of his time.
To: RobbyS
To: RobbyS
Brace yourself.... I agree.
To: drstevej
Instead they have verses done in caligraphy that are framed and displayed. This is the way that Islamic art has gone as well. They have produced some remarkably beautiful patterns.
To: RobbyS
Protestant calligraphy tends to be less ornate so the words take prominence and are not lost in the embellishments.
To: All
Just stretching my fingers for when I hit 50K tomorrow...carry on...
To: All
Just stretching my fingers for when I hit 50K tomorrow...carry on...
To: All
Just stretching my fingers for when I hit 50K tomorrow...carry on...
To: All
Just stretching my fingers for when I hit 50K tomorrow...carry on...
To: All
Just stretching my fingers for when I hit 50K tomorrow...carry on...
To: drstevej
Well, Arabic script is based on handwriting so there is less embellishment than one might think.
To: DouglasKC
I have my alarm set for 3:00am. If you snooze, you lose!
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