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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi

The Neverending Story
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To: ventana
LOL. No, the phrase crops up in all sorts of weird psuedo scriptural fringe Christian groups (you know, Sabbath keeper types and the like :-))

Maybe the phrase should crop up in Catholic groups, you know, the commandment breaker types. :-)

49,221 posted on 04/28/2003 5:29:29 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: drstevej
"It is the portrait of Jesus in the four Gospels and on the pages of the Bible that has held my interest."

Precisely the same pages which have led Catholic artists(and theologians, for that matter) for generations to focus particularly on the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

The heart for the ancients was the home of the soul. And so for the early Church, the Sacred Heart of Jesus became a dramatic way of stressing both Christ's divinity and His humanity.

Of course, we moderns know better. Since the Enlightment, we've pulled hearts out and looked at them. And we didn't see any soul. So it must not be there. Today, we view the heart as a) a biological organ which pumps blood and b)a figurative symbol for the emotions which, we all know, are in fact caused by biochemical processes within the body on the brain.

Today, we are much more people of the mind, people of the brain. Undoubtedly, this leads many to view our art as (to use the word one Protestant recently used with me) "cheesy." Imagine, a representation of the Sacred Heart of Our Lord seen as "cheesy." The same heart Psalms 22 tells us has "become like wax, melting away" in His bosom. The same heart which rejoices when it proclaims in the same Psalm that our hearts may "be ever merry."(And, as I'm sure you recognize, this is the same psalm which was on Our Lord's lips while He suffered on the Cross.)

Take some time, doctor, and contemplate His Heart. You'll find it burns with the same love you see when you read the pages of the Gospels.

49,222 posted on 04/28/2003 5:38:01 PM PDT by AlguyA
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To: AlguyA
***Take some time, doctor, and contemplate His Heart.***

What in the world makes you think I have not? [We Protestants make it a regular practice to remember what He has done for us. For me that is not a hollow exercise.]

***You'll find it burns with the same love you see when you read the pages of the Gospels.***

I spend time meditating on Scripture. That is a powerful experience -- true mysticism. Reading Isaiah 53 and contemplating each phrase is truly overwhelming.
49,223 posted on 04/28/2003 5:43:45 PM PDT by drstevej (I like the Book better than the pictures.)
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To: drstevej
'What in the world makes you think I have not?"

I'm sorry, I did not mean to imply you had not. I did, however, infer from your previous post that you found Bible study superior to art as a means of contemplating, praising, worshipping, etc. My point is they are not mutually exclusive. The artwork in question is meant to prompt the soul to a consideration of the Sacrifice about which you speak in your most recent post. My point is that such prompts are entirely biblical.

49,224 posted on 04/28/2003 5:57:26 PM PDT by AlguyA (A picture is worth a thousand words.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,225 posted on 04/28/2003 5:59:58 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,226 posted on 04/28/2003 5:59:59 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,227 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,228 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:05 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,229 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:06 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,230 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:11 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,231 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:12 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,232 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:16 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; JHavard; malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant
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49,233 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,234 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,235 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:22 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,236 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:27 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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49,237 posted on 04/28/2003 6:00:28 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: AlguyA
Those pictures don't bother you?
49,238 posted on 04/28/2003 6:02:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
"Those pictures don't bother you?"

Not in the least. Indeed, I have a statue of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in my home. Why, do they bother you?

49,239 posted on 04/28/2003 6:04:47 PM PDT by AlguyA (A picture is worth a thousand words.)
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To: AlguyA
I don't deny the validity of the arts in contemplation and worship. I do find the study of the Bible clearly superior.
49,240 posted on 04/28/2003 6:08:27 PM PDT by drstevej
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