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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi

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To: Mr. Lucky; malakhi
Thanx, lets see what the hardheaded Jew thinks. :)

BigMack

46,681 posted on 04/11/2003 12:01:30 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: nate4one
PRAYER, PRAYER, PRAYER

Will do, Nate. Prayers going out for her.

46,682 posted on 04/11/2003 12:10:19 PM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I't would be the soft headed folks who concern me.
46,683 posted on 04/11/2003 12:14:18 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: malakhi; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Contrary to the gospel, I don't think that this is an exclusive way to God. I believe that people can be in relationship with God without even knowing about Jesus. "For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God."

RIGHT!
46,684 posted on 04/11/2003 12:23:41 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a cult of one? UNITARJEWMIAN)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Thanks Mack. I've got to get some work done before the end of the day, so I've printed off your reply, and will respond sometime this weekend when I have time.
46,685 posted on 04/11/2003 12:25:59 PM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: malakhi; All
Off topic story, but I have had to read all your sports stuff sooo....

4 yrs ago we bred our stud horse to the mare I rode at the time. The baby ultimatly was for my daughter. We have never raised one from the womb, we have always sold them as babies. But this one was for Jenny to raise.

The filly, Dot, (she has a perfectly round white spot on her head) is 3 now. Jenny and I took her out today for her first trail ride. She went like a champ. Was not spooky or scary of anything, walked out real nice, didn't stumble and trip even though she is barefoot. Really did good.

UNTIL...:) we got to a muddy water hole. She did not want to go thru it and there were to many low branches on either side for a rider to get under. We tried everything. Finally, we both got off our horses, I took one rein, Jenny took the other we both got switches to peck at her hindquarters. Well she locked up at the edge, till she suddenly reared up and jumped towards Jenny's side which of course drug me thru the pubble. I came home covered in mud, down inside my boots, but once I was in the puddle she was getting in too:), She did, not as much as I had too though, but she did do it finally.

We really think this horse has a great mind, she never acted scared, she just didn't want to get in and that is something that will be easy to work out. In fact we are going to next Wed. when Jen is off work for a whole day, in case it takes awhile.

But besides that she is doing great, and we are real pround of our first attempt at raising, and breaking one.

We got to see her birth, and did imprint training before she even stood up. She has a great personality. Anyway just want to tell:)

We are going to breed her momma again this spring, that is if I can get Mack to come out and help. And no:) they can't do it by themselves. We have always halter bred so to keep the stud from getting kicked, or the mare bit. We don't bred the stud often so it's been 2 yrs since he bred one, he may be a bit aggressive.

Becky

46,686 posted on 04/11/2003 2:05:48 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
We got to see her birth, and did imprint training before she even stood up.

What does that mean?

SD

46,687 posted on 04/11/2003 2:08:05 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
We don't bred the stud often so it's been 2 yrs since he bred one, he may be a bit aggressive.

Understandably so! ;o)

Thanks for sharing. I enjoy your horse stories!

46,688 posted on 04/11/2003 2:17:15 PM PDT by malakhi (fundamentalist unitarian)
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To: SoothingDave
Imprint training, is That the minute the baby is born you are there touching it everywhere, eyes, ears, face, feet, etc. Then the smell of humans are imprinted on them and it supposedly makes them easier to handle as they grow. I had a halter on her the day after she was born was leading her around in 2 days. By they time she was a month old I was ponying her off her mom (I rode the mom and lead the baby at her side with a lead rope).

She has always been very easy to teach, I would like to know if it has to do with the imprint training or if she was just going to be easy to handle. We have had a few that were not so easy.

To see her birth I slept in the barn for 10 nights. Although we had had babies born here before it was the first we got to see born. The mare was my horse and I wanted to be sure she was OK. It was her first. We have had babies from this stud and he does seem to always put a good mind in his offspring, so I don't know if it is her breeding or that she has been handled from the beginning. We always sold the rest of his babies before it was time to break them. They were easy to train to lead. We have had other foals from other studs and mares and they were hellions. But they also had not been handled much. So who knows. But I will always try to imprint them after this.

Becky

46,689 posted on 04/11/2003 2:39:31 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: malakhi
Found this when studying for our fri night bible study.

Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied [1 Pet. 1:2].

He presents the doctrine of the Trinity: the foreknowledge of God the Father, sanctification of the Spirit, and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.

BigMack
46,690 posted on 04/11/2003 3:16:05 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
UNTIL...:) we got to a muddy water hole. She did not want to go thru it and there were to many low branches on either side for a rider to get under. We tried everything.

When I was 15, I helped skid logs for a sawmill, that used horses. We had a beautiful team of sorrels, that worked great together, and the boss decided to add a second team, but couldn’t find a team that was used to working together.

They settled for one nice sorrel mare, and a smaller gray horse they named “Glue” for apparent reasons. When the sled was loaded, I tried to start them together, but when the mare would tighten, and lean into the harness, the “glue” would be pulled backwards and end up setting down on his own single tree.

Regardless of what we did, he’d refuse to lean into the harness. The owner got so frustrated he unhooked the mare from the team, took a piece of fencing wire, wrapped one end around Glue's tail, and wrapped the other end around the chain saw spark plug, gave the starting rope a hard pull, and Glue galloped from the woods all the way to the skidway, with out one stop, pulling a full load of logs by himself, a distance that we normally would have given them two rest breaks.

Today that would be considered cruel and unusual, but back then, those who worked teams, believed the teamster should never let a horse get it’s own way, or do what it wanted to do, even if it was right.

If a horse stopped exactly where you wanted it to stop with out the teamster doing the stopping, he’d make it start again, and go another 5 feet, and then he’d pull the reins back and tell it to stop.

The Old Story Teller, JH :-)

46,691 posted on 04/11/2003 3:43:33 PM PDT by JHavard
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
We are going to breed her momma again this spring, that is if I can get Mack to come out and help. And no:) they can't do it by themselves. We have always halter bred so to keep the stud from getting kicked, or the mare bit. We don't bred the stud often so it's been 2 yrs since he bred one, he may be a bit aggressive.

No way can Mack substitute for the stud.

That would be construed as cruel and inhumane treatment for the mare.

And besides, they would have one ugly baby!

46,692 posted on 04/11/2003 5:06:17 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a cult of one? UNITARJEWMIAN)
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To: JHavard; malakhi
Douglas, on the thread I linked above, one of the posters said that the United Church of God teaches Anglo-Israelism. Is this true?

I would say yes with qualifications. The term "Anglo-Israelism" conjures up different images to different people. It's definitely not Christian identity or any of the other ones that have racist overtones.

Jacob, when blessing them, crossed his hands and gave the greater blessing to the younger son, Ephraim, which they taught was to become the United States, and the lesser blessing to Manasseh, who was Britain. Gen 48:1-22

Jim is essentially correct in that the teaching is mostly about the place of the United States and Great Britain in prophecy.

I don't think though that this was something Armstrong invented whole cloth. The idea of America and Great Britain having a manifest destiny has been around for quite a while. The physical blessings certainly seem unparalleled and fit in nicely with bible prophecy. At the very least I think it's obvious that the United States has been blessed by God as long as it's people have adhered to God's laws.

It's a huge subject, but if you're interested you can read the booklet The United States and Great Britain in Bible Prophecy

46,693 posted on 04/11/2003 7:18:55 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; malakhi; JHavard
Olson's conclusion to the matter is that: "the most common ancestor of all six billion people on earth today probably lived just a couple of thousand years ago."

Interesting piece and probably true.

I did a similar thought problem with Jim (I think it was Jim) a while back.

Add in to this what God *promised* Abraham:

Gen 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which [is] upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

And later promised Israel:

Gen 26:3 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
Gen 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

With God's blessing and the math, I think it's virtually a given that a great number of people in the world today are actual physical descendents of Israel.

46,694 posted on 04/11/2003 7:40:01 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
We don't bred the stud often so it's been 2 yrs since he bred one, he may be a bit aggressive.

Ya think? :-)

46,695 posted on 04/11/2003 8:53:35 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: JHavard
Interesting Story:) A number one rule in training is don't start something with a horse that you don't intended on finishing. Make sure they do what ever you want the way you want.

Loading horses in a trailer is the biggest one that people screw up on. They get the horse up 5 minutes before they want to go somewhere and the horse won't load. They either land up leaving at home or try loading it for a while then quite to try again tomorrow. Once you stop, the horse has won, and next time will be harder. I had this particular baby getting in a trailer by 1 month old, first with it's momma then by herself.

Tying horses up is another place soft hearted people screw up. There are alot of horses out there that can't be tied, because at some point when they were tied either the first time or later, they threw a fit at the end of the rope and the rope broke or someone untied them thinking they would hurt themselves. Never use an old rope to tie up a horse and NEVER untie one that is throwing a fit. Your just teaching them how to get untied.

Becky

46,696 posted on 04/12/2003 6:01:08 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: OLD REGGIE
:)

Becky
46,697 posted on 04/12/2003 6:03:14 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: DouglasKC
:)

Becky
46,698 posted on 04/12/2003 6:04:05 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
:-)


JH

46,699 posted on 04/12/2003 10:53:44 AM PDT by JHavard
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
:-)


47,000 JH :-)

46,700 posted on 04/12/2003 10:57:01 AM PDT by JHavard
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