[rwfromkansas]

Oh my gosh, this was a funny post. As if you guys are some innocent victims and oh, you never burned heretics at the stake, slaughtered Huegenots en masse, etc. If you are going to argue that we are wrong for to speak out and we are being 'threatened' by the 'true church,' it makes me wonder just what your power-hungry, money-lusting, murderous leaders of the past were afraid of. It makes me wonder what you are afraid of when you did not used to let believers truly experience worship (unless of course, they knew Latin). And then, you even kept the Word of God out of the range of the common man. I wonder what the apostate leaders in the middle ages were afraid of....perhaps that people could think for themselves, with the Holy Spirit instead of an evil man guiding them?

[ThomasMore]

power-hungry, money-lusting, murderous leaders

There's been sin in the Church from the beginning. Lets start with Judas. BTW, sex, silver and power are not just Catholic sins. Look at your past protestant brothers and sisters. They burnt, raped and pillaged at an equally abhorant rate. So now that we all know that sin exists and persists even in the body of Christ, what does that have to do with Christian doctrine?

[Romulus]

And then, you even kept the Word of God out of the range of the common man.

Would this be the common man who was illiterate or the common man who was too poor to afford five years' wages to purchase a handwritten bible?

There were dozens of vernacular bibles produced, with full church sanction, from the earliest times. The Douai-Reims version (the first authorised translation in modern English) was published before the KJV.

You've been taught a lot of things that aren't so. If you're going to go onto the net to argue these things, you owe it to yourself to re-examine things for yourself.