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To: First Conservative
I'm NOT attacking what fundamentalist Christians believe. I'm posting information to refute the anti-Catholic attack of a fundamentalist Christian on another Catholic thread.

And you know what I believe. I am Catholic Christian. Its the non-Catholic Christians who cannot agree amongst themselves what to believe, to the point that there are thousands of non-Catholic "christian" denominations. But there is only one True Church of Christ.

As Ignatius said only 80 years after Christ rose on Easter Sunday:

LET US STAND ALOOF FROM SUCH HERETICS.

They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes.</>

"Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he ordains [i.e., a PRIEST]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. Nor is it permitted without the Bishop to baptize or celebrate the agape; but whatever he approve, this too is pleasing to God, so that whatever is done will be secure and valid." (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).

Sounds an aweful lot like the earliest Christians believed Christ when He "I give you the keys of the kingdom. What you lose on earth will be losed in Heaven... " and "My flesh is TRUE FOOD and my blood is TRUE DRINK" and "UNLESS you EAT MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD you have no life within you."!!!

52 posted on 03/31/2002 5:39:06 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church

For the sake of clarity, is not the "c" in "Catholic" left uncapitalized in the original? That is, didn't Ignatius use the word as an adjective rather than as a proper noun?

53 posted on 03/31/2002 6:42:18 PM PST by malakhi
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To: proud2bRC
Okay, this is where I am REALLY GETTING PISSED OFF!

"Its the non-Catholic Christians who cannot agree amongst themselves what to believe, to the point that there are thousands of non-Catholic "christian" denominations. But there is only one True Church of Christ."

OKAY, SO ANYTHING NEGATIVE THAT A PROT SAYS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS CAUSE FOR BANISHMENT OR POST REMOVAL, RIGHT MODERATORS? WELL EXPLAIN WHY THIS SUPERIORITY TRIP, COMPLETE WITH USING "CHRISTIAN" IN A SMARMY FASHION, IS ALLOWED TO STAY?????????????

77 posted on 04/01/2002 7:29:07 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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