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To: father_elijah
Iowegian, honestly you have no way of knowing what was in Terry's mind when she used the phrase "Storm troopers". I have chosen to accept her apology and move on.

Fine with me, but then why don't you leave it, Brian is the one that brought it up in order to bash Terry all over again, even after her apology. The issue is dead to me, but you say you have forgiven her, but you clearly still harbor ill will toward her and don't believe her. I choose to believe her.

Judging from my freepmail everyone who has locked horns with her before whether RC, Methodist, Mormon or what have you -- all of them believe she meant Nazi.

This is kind of amusing to me because of on the NES thread whenever the issue of whether RC's worship or venerate Mary comes up, they say "you can't judge what's in a man's hearts", even though I am in the same building and can see and hear what they are doing. But you guys judge Terry and you don't really know her and haven't met her, you are not judging righteously IMO. Just let it go.

Your criticism of those of us who opposed her choice of language is not helpful or constructive even if it is your heartfelt view. Proposing solutions for how to handle such disagreements is important, and you were moving in that direction with your mention of the use of freepmail. But there needs to be more to a method of resolution than that. The original offending post would need to be deleted and those involved take it to freepmail for resolution. Et cetera et cetera. If anyone is interested in working on a voluntary code for such disagreements, it would be a valuable tool for all of us who passionately love our faiths to the consternation of others.

While I respect your opinion and don't doubt any personal pain it caused you, I still think we all need to take ourselves a little less seriously and come off our high horses. Brian is personally responsible for getting many posters banned, which is a shame. But my guess is that in private he is proud of this. Freedom is important, remember the F in Free Republic, we show be quick to listen (read) and slow to speak (post) and only hit the abuse button as a last resort, not at first glance IMO. I don't think we can say anything we want, but did you start by Freepmailing Terry in private? I'm sure you are aware of this Scripture, but I post it for anyone else who might read this:

"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."

My suggestion is that on this religious forum somehow we incorporate this into our interpersonal alleged offensive post policy. The first step would be freepmail explaining why you find it offensive, the last step, and only as a last resort would be banning. Just my ideas for what it's worth.

Regards

715 posted on 04/04/2002 3:03:00 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: Iowegian,RnMomof7
elijah, This is biblical wisdom. To be drunk with the blood of the saints by gleefully banning those whom you cannot exist in peace with and bragging about it as I have personally seen some do, is reprehensible.
716 posted on 04/04/2002 3:15:19 PM PST by la$tminutepardon
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To: Iowegian
I don't think we can say anything we want, but did you start by Freepmailing Terry in private?

No, I regret that I did not. It was in a public forum and was so horrendous to me that I did not find it possible to step back and consider that possibility. I only knew I needed to speak out against an evil. I was mistaken regarding her intent according to her apology. That is a tragedy that should teach us something, but I do not know if it will.

741 posted on 04/04/2002 5:30:29 PM PST by father_elijah
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