Posted on 03/27/2002 10:38:26 AM PST by malakhi
I've reviewed the critiques and suggestions from Thread 2, have incorporated those I could, and have come up with the following Topic list. One point that was questioned by a number of people were the names of the Denominational Topics categories. I have tried to stay with names that are in common use, and/or are preferred by members of those groups. If you suggested a change here and I did not put it in place, that is probably why.
What I would like to do is to have all interested parties vote a straight up or down on the topics as they stand. If over half of the voters oppose the present list, then we'll reopen it for further changes. If the majority is in favor of the present list, then this is what we'll go with. Keep in mind that additions to the list are always possible down the road.
I will be offline from sunset tonight until Saturday night for the first two days of Passover and then for Shabbat. That will give everyone a chance to weigh in and vote. I'll tally the votes Saturday night, and let Jim Robinson know the results.
Thanks for your participation and the many great suggestions!
General Topics
Activism Opportunities to make your voice heard. Apologetics Defense of doctrine. Current Events Religion or religion-related news of the day. Ecumenism Pertaining to discussion, cooperation and understanding among denominations. History History of religion, religion and secular history, tradition, sacred texts. Humor If at first you don't succeed, don't skydive. Ministry/Outreach Pastoral issues, proselytization, missions. Moral Issues Abortion, divorce, sexuality, social justice, ethics. Prayer Requests for prayer, articles about prayer, spirituality. Religion & Culture Religious critique of secular culture, influence of religion on culture. Religion & Politics Church/state issues, legislation, court cases, 1st amendment, the political process. Religion & Science Creation, evolution, ethical issues posed by scientific advances. Theology Nature of God and religious truth, rational inquiry into religious questions. Worship Methods of worship, liturgy, communal prayer.
Denominational Topics This is not intended to be a complete list, but rather to indicate broad categories. Catholic Latin rite, Eastern rites. Charismatic Christian Assemblies of God, pentacostalism, charismatic movement. Eastern Religions Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Taoism. Evangelical Christian Baptist, sola scriptura, non-denominational, independent fundamentalist Bible believers. Islam Sunni, Shiite, Sufism, Wahhabism. Judaism Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, Karaite. Mainline Protestant Anglican, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Unitarian, UCC. Orthodox Christian Greek, Russian, Armenian, Antiochian etc. Other Christian 7th Day Adventist, Churches of God, Messianic Christians, LDS, etc. Other non-Christian Baha'i, Zoroastrianism, animism, Wicca, etc. Skeptics/Seekers Agnosticism, atheism, secular humanism, etc.
was it just yesterday you were asking me to be tolerant of her ;)
He posted vile lies to that thread.
Before I could respond after Easter, the thread was pulled because of the abuse you OP jerks heaped upon us Catholics on that thread.
I started a new thread that plainly refutes the lies OP posted on our thread, and by pinging him asked him to defend his lies or refute my response.
He knew damn well he was caught in vile lies, as do do too, and he never had the guts to respond.
Now you whine and complain about my thread, as if I was "baiting" OP.
You are pathetic.
In late January/early February, Jim Robinson posted a thread titled A word of caution regarding the bashing of Mormons, Catholics, Jews, anyone at all on Free Repub
Four or five particularly obnoxious and vile chronic Catholic bashers entered that thread and bashed Jim Rob for taking away their First Amendment rights to bash Catholics. Then they proceeded to mercilessly bash Catholics on the very thread Jim Rob posted asking them to knock it off and face being banned if they refused.
They refused and persisted in bashing Catholics.
I just continued chatting with them long enough that they could get themselves banned, because they cannot engage in any debate here with Catholics without using words and phrases such as "whore of babylon," "pope=anti-Christ," "Mary idolatry," etc.
All I did was chat with them till they pulled out the phrases Jim Rob warned them not to use, and after they did, I flagged Jim Ron (I did NOT use the abuse button to do it. It was far too obvious it was not necessary.)
Sin makes you stupid. Attacking Christ's True Church is sin. These idiots got themselves banned.
Oh, la$tminutepardon, as far as "being drunk on the blood of saints" goes, those who attack Christ and His Church simply are not saints.
Let me share with you what spiritual warfare is, for you seem to have a fatal misunderstanding of it:
The history of the world from the beginning is but the history of the struggle between the powers of the world, and of hell, against the souls which are humbly devoted to the divine action. In this struggle all the advantage seems to be on the side of pride, yet the victory always remains with humility. The image of the world is always presented to our eyes as a statue of gold, brass, iron, and clay. This mystery of iniquity, shown in a dream to Nabuchodonosor, is nothing but a confused medley of all the actions, interior and exterior, of the children of darkness. This is also typified by the beast coming out of the pit to make war, from the beginning of time, against the interior and spiritual life of man. All that takes place in our days in the consequence of this war. Monster follows monster out of the pit, which swallows, and vomits them forth again amidst incessant clouds of smoke. The combat between St. Michael and Lucifer, that began in Heaven, still continues. The heart of this once magnificent angel, has become, through envy, an inexhaustible abyss of every kind of evil. He made angel revolt against angel in Heaven, and from the creation of the world his whole energy is exerted to make more criminals among men to fill the ranks of those who have been swallowed up in the pit. Lucifer is the chief of those who refuse obedience to the Almighty. This mystery of iniquity is the very inversion of the order of God; it is the order, or rather, the disorder of the devil.
Every wicked man, who, from the time of Cain, up to the present moment, has declared war against God, has outwardly been great and powerful, making a great stir in the world, and being worshiped by all. But this outward semblance is a mystery. In reality they are beasts which have ascended from the pit one after another to overthrow the order of God. But this order, which is another mystery, has always opposed to them really great and powerful men who have dealt these monsters a mortal wound. As fast as hell vomits them forth, Heaven at the same time creates fresh heroes to combat them. Ancient history, sacred and profane, is but a record of this war. The order of God has ever remained victorious and those who have ranged themselves on the side of God have shared His triumph, and are happy for all eternity. Injustice has never been able to protect deserters. It can reward them only by death, an eternal death.
How wonderfully has the Holy Spirit illustrated the centuries of the world! So many startling revelations! so many renowned heroes following each other like so many brilliant stars! So many wonderful events!
All these monsters only come into the world to exercise the courage of the children of God, and if these are well trained, God gives them the pleasure of slaying the monsters, and sends fresh athletes into the arena.
And this life is a spectacle to angels, causing continual joy in Heaven, work for saints on earth, and confusion to the devils in hell.
So all that is opposed to the order of God renders it only the more to be adored. All workers of iniquity are slaves of justice, and the divine action builds the heavenly Jerusalem on the ruins of Babylon.
You think I was slaying saints la$tminutepardon ?
Hardly. I was slaying dragons.
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Re: Ad-Hoc Religion Forum Committee Discussion - Thread 3
From Iowegian | 2002-04-04 10:17:02 replied
Sorry Brian, but based on your track record, I don't believe that you or one of your RC friends caused my posts to be taken off. I saw that thread where you baited NC's to say something and then you copied JR on there to make sure they got banned. I'm wise to you. You seem to want the board for yourselves instead of a free and open debate.
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Re: Ad-Hoc Religion Forum Committee Discussion - Thread 3
From Dr. Brian Kopp 2002-04-04 10:17:02 replied
Yeah that was a great thread.
Good advice. And how about if everyone abides by the original intent of Jim Rob's thread 2 months ago titled A word of caution regarding the bashing of Mormons, Catholics, Jews, anyone at all on Free Repub
Then this whole mess never would have started.
Hardly. I was slaying dragons
I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.
BigMack
And what, pray tell, do you call the crap you OP's plaster all over any Catholic thread???
You OP's are pathetic. You can attack and abuse wontonly, and as long as us Catholics are on the defensive you guys gleefully take pleasure in it.
Now we're fed up, the tide has turned, we're taking back our turf, and you're on the defensive and losing ground fast.
And look at your pathetic behavior!
I've blown one of OP's pet historical pieces completely out of the water, and you whine and call it protestant bashing and baiting.
But when you folks hit us, you pull this pietistic crap that "we're only spreading the gospel. How can posting the word of God be a bad thing?"
Hypocrites. You can dish it out, but when the tide turns, instead of admitting defeat and embracing what has unequivocally been proven to you to be the Truth, instead you reject the Truth and murder the reputation of His prophets.
The tide has turned. The Catholic Caucus is not going to put up with your double standard any longer.
I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.
BigMack
But thanks for proving my point, you are proud of yourself for doing it. And yes what you posted is an admission on your part of this baiting and banning. Now enough of this.
Then this whole mess never would have started.
And then he continues the attack, funny. :)
BigMack
Well I would of just posted it out on the public forum for all to see. :)
BigMack
I am sorry you feel it is slander to speak of other peoples' negative opinions about your posts. As I said to Iowegian, opinions about your intentions are not reality. My point in response to Iowegian's unfortunate post was that we had to accept each other at their word -- not based on anyone's opinion -- and with respect for each other move on. We are in need of a method that is better than our experience on this thread.
Thank you for taking the time for your kind post and for your positive testimony. I have every reason to believe our forum will be stronger if we must accept each other at his or her word, and offer each other the kind of respect without which no conversation is possible.
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree, go back and see earlier today Brian was the one who brought it up and posted to me, I didn't bring this up. That guy is truly out of control.
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