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To: Jeff Gordon
To: gore3000

What really bothers me about your ideas is that you have taken it upon yourself to limit God's omnipotent capabilities. What part of omnipotent do you not understand?

Our omnipotent God is perfectly capable of saying: "Let this next quantum event create a universe from which will spring forth stars, galaxies, planets and life from elemental particles. I have set the universal constants such that all this will occur without my needing any further intervention." What part of omnipotent do you not understand?

Man is not potent enough to plan his projects such they will work perfectly from the get go. God has no such limitations. He is perfectly capable of creating a universe such that life will evolve from what we see as random events. What part of omnipotent do you not understand?

I find it shocking that you would attempt to limit God's power to that which you, a man of limited power, can conceive. Not only is it shocking, it is an insult to the very nature of God. What part of omnipotent do you not understand?

Why do you insist that God play by your rules? Why would you want to forbid God's allowing for abiogenesis? What part of omnipotent do you not understand?

400 posted on 3/28/02 9:30 PM Hawaii-Aleutian by Jeff Gordon

God does have evolution--PLAN...

"If the Christ of God, in His sorrowful life below, be but a specimen of suffering humanity, or a model of patient calmness under wrong, not one of these things is manifested or secured. He is but one fragment more of a confused and disordered world, where everything has broken loose from its anchorage, and each is dashing against the other in unmanageable chaos, without any prospect of a holy or tranquil issue. He is an example of the complete triumph of evil over goodness, of wrong over right, of Satan over God,-one from whose history we can draw only this terrific conclusion, that God has lost the control of His own world; that sin has become too great a power for God either to regulate or extirpate; that the utmost that God can do is to produce a rare example of suffering holiness, which He allows the world to tread upon without being able effectually to interfere; that righteousness, after ages of buffeting and scorn, must retire from the field in utter helplessness, and permit the unchecked reign of evil. If the cross be the mere exhibition of self-sacrifice and patient meekness, then the hope of the world is gone. We had always thought that there was a... potent purpose---of God at work in connection with the sin- bearing work of the holy Sufferer, which, allowing sin for a season to develop itself, was preparing and evolving a power which would utterly overthrow it, and sweep earth clean of evil, moral and physical. But if the crucified Christ be the mere self-denying man, we have nothing more at work for the overthrow of evil than has again and again been witnessed, when some hero or martyr rose above the level of his age to protest against evils which he could not eradicate, and to bear witness in life and death for truth and righteousness,-in vain."

439 posted on 03/29/2002 7:39:49 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
allowing sin for a season to develop itself..

Sin? We are talking about evolution. What is with this obsession of yours about sin? Gulity conscious?

495 posted on 03/29/2002 1:01:45 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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