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To: Goldhammer
That's not saying much, at least in your case, because earlier you explained that no scientific theory logically entails anything.

I certainly never said anything remotely like that. The following are the claims I was trying to make, which apparently were not clear to you, stated as succintly as I can manage:

1) Scientific theories do not, and cannot, logically entail their own truth.

It is precisely the implicit assertion that "this theory is true" which is empirically tested by means of the many implications regarding natural objects, systems and their behavior which can indeed be deduced from good scientific theories.

2) The fact that scientific theories methodologically disregard the supernatural does not entail any metaphysical or ontological conclusion about the existence of a supernatural realm or entities.

In sum I agree that scientific theories do have entailments, but only with respect to the natural world.

337 posted on 03/28/2002 3:01:29 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
1) Scientific theories do not, and cannot, logically entail their own truth.

Yet evolutionists constantly give as proof of their theory that since the answer to a question can never be God, therefore evolution must be true.

It is precisely the implicit assertion that "this theory is true" which is empirically tested by means of the many implications regarding natural objects, systems and their behavior which can indeed be deduced from good scientific theories.

Very good! Finally after dozens of posts you have admitted that there is a test of scientific theories. After dozens of excuses you finally admit that evolution has to say more than I believe this for it to be valid. So now, it's time to put up the facts and show how in any scientific manner, evolution is more than pure sophistry.

382 posted on 03/28/2002 8:40:17 PM PST by gore3000
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