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To: texicano
Personally, I am a very religious person. When I joined these debates about three years ago, I kept an open mind.

But after three years, the Creationists have done nothing but insult my intelligence and have totally failed to support their arguments.

Just like Liberals, you eventually must question why they must use distortions, selective facts, or out right lies to support their position.

God created the Universe, and science is a quest to understand how it was done. To study science, is to study God, and I never could understand why this seems to be so difficult to comprehend.

22 posted on 03/13/2002 7:36:57 AM PST by Hunble
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To: Hunble
God created the Universe, and science is a quest to understand how it was done. To study science, is to study God, and I never could understand why this seems to be so difficult to comprehend.

Well put. Here's something on this issue which I posted about a month ago:

If scripture is properly understood -- not an easy task -- it doesn't contradict science at all. The trick is knowing when scripture is to be understood literally, and when it's speaking in metaphor.

No one, not even the most strident fundamentalist, takes the numerous passages about "the four corners of the earth" and the "pillars of the earth" as being literally true. Why? Because we know the shape of the earth. Similarly, since Galileo's unfortunate encounter with the Inquisition over the solar system, probably even the most stubborn fundamentalist will agree with Galileo that the solar system is real, and those passages in scripture which seem to say that the earth is the unmoveable center of the universe are mere poetry. Why? Again, it's because we know enough now to realize that the solar system -- although "only a theory" -- is a very good description of reality.

The point here is that our growing understanding -- through science -- of the true nature of the universe is actually an aid to understanding scripture. The scientist, quite without realizing it, and sometimes in spite of his lack of religious conviction, is providing a kind of "reader's guide" to help us have a better understanding of scripture. Actually, the universe itself is the "reader's guide" but it's the scientist who discovers the nature of the universe. Thus, when understood in the light of science, scripture can be properly read, old misunderstandings can be corrected, and there is no conflict. Without science, we have no way of knowing if our reading of scripture is correct.


31 posted on 03/13/2002 8:19:32 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Hunble
To study science, is to study God

An agnostic but monotheistic-leaning amen to that statement!

52 posted on 03/13/2002 9:26:25 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Hunble
Personally, I am a very religious person. When I joined these debates about three years ago, I kept an open mind.

You sound like me, only I've been following the debates (not necessarily here) much longer.

But after three years, the Creationists have done nothing but insult my intelligence and have totally failed to support their arguments.

Just like Liberals, you eventually must question why they must use distortions, selective facts, or out right lies to support their position.

I don't know if creationists have insulted my intelligence, but I find some of their tactics very irritating and unacceptable. The evolutionists seem to know their science much better than the creationists. But some tactics used by evolutionists is just as much a turn off for me, and after awhile I just stop reading. I once offered to act as a mediator between the two but only received a response from the creationists. Maybe a moderator isn't needed, but after setting some ground rules, I would request both parties to answer all questions, not allowing anyone to get away with anything, not even name calling. I think it would be fun.

God created the Universe, and science is a quest to understand how it was done. To study science, is to study God, and I never could understand why this seems to be so difficult to comprehend.

I disagree with you here. I don't consider studying science as studying God. As I understand it, science is the study of nature and the natural. God, being God, is outside of nature and actually, supernatural.

144 posted on 03/13/2002 12:27:47 PM PST by scripter
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