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To: NorthMountain; JesusIsLord
You may be correct at a deeper level.

On the surface, though, it appears to be more like an excessive devotion to VCII, to the exclusion of and in opposition to everything else in Catholic history. Add to that the (actually highly debatable) claim that the NO is the Mass which implements the "vision" of VCII, and you get to where we are.

15 posted on 07/02/2024 8:50:38 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Campion

I think both perspectives are valid.


18 posted on 07/02/2024 5:21:46 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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