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To: Morgana

YES! My mom got involved with them in the 1950s. Going to Church was never a joy after that. Very controlling of what you believe, They don’t use many reference books at all, KJV ONLY. it is more about what you feel about scripture than what it actually says. They hold to the commission Christ gave to the 12 and the 70 in Matthew 10 and Luke 10, not later commissions. They condemn all other churches and do not give tithes. The poor really like that! They drove my younger brother into atheism.

Thankfully a man(Grace Believer) in New Mexico broke their power over me fifty years ago and I never looked back. They are a WORKS FOR SALVATION CHURCH. in other words follow the rules (none printed). When My mom lay dying one of her (women) preachers asked if she was ready to meet God. Her cry tore me apart. “I’M AFRAID I HAVEN’T DONE ENOUGH!” Her “workers” assured her she had. I was ready to yell “It is not what you do for Christ that saves you! IT IS WHAT HE DID ON THE CROSS THAT SAVES YOU!”
(and who gave these “workers” authority to to decide if someone is saved or not?)
But in their church you EARN it.
Poverty is one thing they really like as those poor they preach to feel they now already have one foot in heaven and must earn the rest.

Known as Two by Twos and Cooneyites due to an early preacher named William Cooney. Also known as Christian Conventions Church.

I checked this out. Yep it is “them”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_by_Twos

Other books about them.
https://www.tellingthetruth.info/lists/books.php

I used to have the book The Secret Sect, 1982 by Doug & Helen Parker. It is now out of print and I gave my copy to the local University Library.

They do use excellent bibles by R.L. Allen but the publishers are not Cooneyites. They also print song books for them.
https://evangelicalbible.com/allan-bibles/


10 posted on 06/18/2024 4:59:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I should add that my last dealings with them was in the 1990s. At one of their “Gospel Meetings” I wanted to ask the woman preacher some questions. She was agreeable.
I asked: Is it necessary for a person to earn salvation?
BOOM!
“OH YES YOU MUST DO GOOD WORKS FOR SALVATION”
Me: But St Paul says it is not by good works but by the Grace of God that saves you WITHOUT WORKS!”
She was no longer friendly and said I should quit reading “other” things and get back to the Bible only!

Sadly I found her to be very ignorant on the Bible and what St Paul said.


11 posted on 06/18/2024 5:07:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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