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To: ADSUM

It should be clear by now that I do not agree with the your several assertions that the RCC is the only and most Biblically correct church, including the above opinion.

I corrected your misinformation about orthodox Lutheranism on this thread against your insistence that your beliefs are superior—aaaaand now we are back where we started.

So, I am now done.

Only God can convert and save.

May God bless you and give you peace.


73 posted on 06/17/2024 6:03:51 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Your own comment clearly states: “ He is saying that on the physical plane, the consecrated bread and wine are just that; but in the Spirit (when one takes the Supper worthily), they ARE the body and blood of Christ because He said so—”this is my body, this is my blood”, reflected in the passages cited in bold and also below, to which I’ve attached a verse or two to make the point more clear:”

How can the bread and wine if not miraculously changed by Jesus through the actions of the priest at Mass into His Body and Blood be the real presence of Jesus? Jesus did not say eat the bread and spiritually that is the same as eating and drinking His flesh and Blood?

So how can one former priest change the Catholic faith of the Mass and Eucharist by his word? He had no authority from God or the Church?

You stated: “I corrected your misinformation about orthodox Lutheranism on this thread against your insistence that your beliefs are superior—aaaaand now we are back where we started.”

I do believe in God’s truths that were delegated to St. Peter and his successor bishops and priests to preach, interpret the Bible and baptize all nations.

The above states “but in the Spirit” and the catholic faith recognizes spiritual communion but it is not the same as the Eucharist in eating the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus.

I am not trying to say I am better but to raise objective questions about God’s truth as passed down for 2000 years. I do believe that many have been poorly catechized (even Catholics) and many have been taught false beliefs. I am just trying to understand.

I agree that only God can give one the graces to fully understand and accept His truth but we can gain more knowledge and understanding from others.

May God also continue to Bless you and give His Peace.


83 posted on 06/17/2024 1:58:12 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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