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To: Albion Wilde

So you do believe that the Catholic Church that Jesus founded and that Jesus declared “I am with you always, to the close of the age” was deserted by Jesus for 1500 years and a former Catholic priest restored the apostolic faith in the 1500’s by starting a new church? Can there be more than one true church? MT 28:19-20

Are you really sure that this was God’s will and approved by Jesus and the Holy spirit? So how can a former priest do that? How can there be so many churches with different truths from God?

I will admit that there are problems within the Church and its leaders (some are sinners); however, The Church is still the Body of Christ with seven Sacraments (instituted by Jesus).

Do you not believe in the words of Jesus in John 6:53-58 that “unless you eat his flesh of the Son of man and drink hos Blood, you have no life in you.”?

God’s Peace be with you. I am asking questions because I feel that all Christians should believe God’s truth and show a unified presentation as his followers.


36 posted on 06/13/2024 12:27:53 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM

I believe we would still be one church had the Powers that Be accepted that Rome was going astray in that period of time, and an Augustinian monk was a whistleblower and reformer with whom they should have worked to listen, to consider, and to make incremental changes over time. Instead they threw him out and touched off a schism and bloodshed.

His and other reformers’ message was to put the scriptures first and foremost when it comes to theology. It was a new day, when the technology of the era, Gutenberg’s printing press, could put the Word of God into the hands of individuals for patient daily study and learning—just as today’s technology enables us to do keyword searches of the entire Bible in seconds, compare multiple translations as an aid to understanding, and find other Christian companions for prayer wherever we may be during the day.

There would not have been “other churches” if the one with the massive temporal and political power had shown more willingness to hear instead of react and reject.

In fact even today, all who profess Christ are beloved by him; none will ever know His mind completely or do His will perfectly. There is no superior, perfect denomination. There are sinners saved by grace, in a variety of organizations — some earnestly moving towards sanctification as much as humans can do, and others sliding towards condemnation. Within each organized denomination, perhaps ten percent at most know what the scriptures say and have given their souls in truth to the Lord.


38 posted on 06/13/2024 6:28:30 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: ADSUM
So you do believe that the Catholic Church that Jesus founded and that Jesus declared “I am with you always, to the close of the age” was deserted by Jesus for 1500 years and a former Catholic priest restored the apostolic faith in the 1500’s by starting a new church? Can there be more than one true church? MT 28:19-20

This post proves you know nothing.   You are so hung up on Martin Luther, you don't even know that the Methodist Church evolved from the Anglican Church that split from the Roman Catholic Church.   The issue is that the Roman Catholic Church strayed away from the Gospel and the Bible over the centuries.

The Immaculate Conception is the [Catholic] belief that the Virgin Mary was free of original sin from the moment of her conception.

It was not, however, until December 8, 1854, that Pius IX, urged by the majority of Catholic bishops throughout the world, solemnly declared in the bull Ineffabilis Deus that the doctrine was revealed by God and hence was to be firmly believed as such by all Catholics.

That is just one thing, but it is a big one.   Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary through the Holy Spirit, The Virgin Mary was not.   The Pope can't just make something up because he thinks it's cool.
52 posted on 06/14/2024 9:17:15 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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