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To: Belteshazzar

No he doesn’t, the passage is inclination to sin. Total depravety is not a Catholic Doctrine.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/depravity-yes-total-depravity-no-way


33 posted on 05/25/2024 12:23:29 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard
No he doesn’t, the passage is inclination to sin. Total depravety is not a Catholic Doctrine.

1And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,

2in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 3Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

4But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

Eph 2:1-6 NASB

It is God Who acts to redeem the individual.

On his own an individual does not seek God....yet it is God Who seeks the individual.

50 posted on 05/25/2024 6:48:36 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Bayard

“Total depravety is not a Catholic Doctrine.”

Yes, you are quite right. It isn’t. It is merely a scriptural doctrine with which catholic doctrine chooses to disagree because of all the centuries of accretion of bad doctrine. Trent is where the accretions were set in concrete to defend the infallibility of the papacy.

It gets to be embarrassing when the pope veers off course as badly as this one has ... but it has happened before.


54 posted on 05/25/2024 11:50:02 PM PDT by Belteshazzar
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