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‘If you won’t ordain me, don’t baptize me.’ SBC Church Plotting to Leave SBC Over Anti- Women Pastors Push is LGBTQ…Friendly?
Protestia ^ | May 7, 2024 | staff

Posted on 05/08/2024 1:58:15 PM PDT by Morgana

Richmond’s First Baptist Church is ready to pull the plug on its membership in the Southern Baptist Convention, a move they’ve been plotting ever since the SBC approved the Law Amendment. Senior Pastor Jim Somerville offered a public rebuke to their actions on account that their church has multiple pastrixes, writing that they’ve taken steps to disaffiliate over this issue:

“This is an emotional decision for many in the church, some because the Southern Baptist Convention has been their denominational “home” all their lives and they can’t imagine leaving, but others because the SBC is disrespecting our female clergy, telling them they can’t be pastors when we know that they can.

…I know this is going to be painful for them. I wish it didn’t have to be that way. At the same time I love our female pastors and have been supportive of women in ministry from the very beginning. My last SBC meeting was in New Orleans in 1990, where my five-year-old niece wore a button that said, “If you won’t ordain me, don’t baptize me.”

…And let’s be truthful: we haven’t been “An SBC church” in a long time. We haven’t sent messengers to the annual convention in more than thirty years.”

Southern Baptists should view their departure as a purification to be rejoiced over and celebrated rather than a tragedy to mourn. While repentance and the termination of their pastrixes would be the ideal resolution, the next best action for them is to cut ties with the denomination. This is especially crucial, given the various other ways the church has drifted.

As revealed by The Dissenter, Sommerville recently confirmed on his blog that the church has finally approved a new welcome statement which reads “We affirm the biblical truth that all people are created in God’s image and therefore seek to welcome every person in the Spirit of Christ” but that it took a “little while to get there” over considerations for LGBTQ people.

“One of our deacons wondered what we were really trying to say with such a message and I made it clear that I wanted to have something I could point to when members of the LGBTQ community asked me if they would be welcome at our church. At our November meeting I had taken an informal survey, asking the deacons how the church relates to that community currently. I asked, “Do we exclude, tolerate, welcome, or affirm?” There were nearly fifty deacons in attendance: a good representation of our congregation. This is what they said.”

Sommerville asked the deacons how they should relate to the LGBTQ community and the results were significantly different, leading him to suggest there is a leadership gap that needs to be closed. He concludes: “I suggested that we could read books, have conversations, listen to the stories of actual members of the LGBTQ community, but yes, we could also put a welcome statement on the website. That might be a start.”

The Dissenter further reveals “we were able to find other pro-LGBTQ resources on the website, including a recommended book about leading a church to “publicly affirm its LGBTQ community members” and another blog post that calls on people to “to declare the value of black lives, to loudly defend LGBTQ people, to stand alongside your Muslim brothers and sisters, to denounce the degradation of the planet.”


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To: SaxxonWoods

Maybe the little girl grew up to be a Muslim. Good luck with that. Maybe she can write her own Bible.


21 posted on 05/08/2024 3:05:20 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Morgana

There HAS NOT been a surge in female Baptist pastors. It has not been a thing in the SBC. Last year we saw Rick Warren come out for them and the SBC slapped him.


22 posted on 05/08/2024 3:17:49 PM PDT by Dartoid
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To: Qwapisking

I remember a pastor who had an old wore out bible falling apart. When he wanted to make a point he would quote a passage from it, then say “Oh I don’t like that!” then pull the page out and drop it on the floor. Talk about getting everyone’s attention!
Of course he had another bible close at hand but he definitely got their attention when he did it.


23 posted on 05/08/2024 3:20:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: Morgana
Yeah....the conservative movement began in the late 70s with a move to re-establish control of the seminaries. Which sadly, had become very liberal.

IIRC professors had to affirm certain principles/beliefs to remain employed. One of these was rejecting homosexuality....that wiped out a number of them.

There were many who didn't like the conservative resurgence....but it was necessary.

And from what I read in various articles and such, it may be necessary again.

24 posted on 05/08/2024 6:32:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JesusIsLord
It's not just the large denominations. It's now common in many independent protestant churches that the pastor's wife automatically becomes a co-pastor by virtue of her marriage.

I see it a lot in black churches and in white churches that are on tv.

25 posted on 05/08/2024 6:33:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Dartoid
There HAS NOT been a surge in female Baptist pastors. It has not been a thing in the SBC. Last year we saw Rick Warren come out for them and the SBC slapped him.

I think it's getting more attention which makes it seem there's a surge. The issue has been around for a long time.

26 posted on 05/08/2024 6:34:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Morgana
We affirm the biblical truth

Apparently not, based on what comes after that opening sentence.

Looks like they should join the UMC.

27 posted on 05/08/2024 6:39:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Morgana; ealgeone

“The Cooperative Baptist Fellowship was formed.”

You should check out the “CBF blog” if you haven’t.


28 posted on 05/08/2024 6:42:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DesertRhino

“Baptists don’t have female preachers.”

Actual Baptists don’t. Apostate churches who co-opt the Baptist “brand” do a lot of weird and blasphemous things. Shameful.


29 posted on 05/08/2024 6:48:25 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I’d get banned for sure.


30 posted on 05/08/2024 7:11:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Republican Wildcat

As a Holiness pastor I remember once sais, “Might as well close the church doors and write ‘ICHABOD’ over the front, for ‘the glory of the Lord has departed’!!”


31 posted on 05/08/2024 7:17:41 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Evil won...again.)
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To: Morgana

Good. Getting rid of “churches” like this is exactly why why the Law amendment should be passed.


32 posted on 05/09/2024 4:42:58 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Morgana

There are pastors. They are men. “Pastrix” is a pretend pastor.


33 posted on 05/10/2024 6:34:12 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Maybe “Trans-Pastor”?


34 posted on 05/10/2024 6:49:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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