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It is true, we live in sad times: Supernatural faith has been extinguished up to the highest ecclesiastical circles and has given way to a new atheism that seeks an unholy connection to the world and its ideas.

The consequences of this are terrible because they would mean the end of the Church and the papacy: where supernatural faith is absent, the pope becomes a mere dictator who only sets a political direction; God himself is just an empty formula.

1 posted on 05/03/2024 2:05:26 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 05/03/2024 2:06:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

When Jesus performed the Last Supper with His disciples, which language did He use?


3 posted on 05/03/2024 2:26:56 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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The one and only thing that the left does well is destroy every superior culture and practice that it touches. Since virtually every culture is superior to them, well, you know what that means.

Hey, there are more of us than there are of them? Why not practice some lefticide? Good for the world, better for us, and (not sadly) terminal for those b*stards and b*tches.


4 posted on 05/03/2024 2:39:40 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ebb tide

can someone explain the opposition to the Latin mass even by the church.

I look at it as what do the parishioners want. If say, the 9 mass is in latin and people show up, then continue it, If they don’t, go back to english or whatever shouldn’t the flock be able to have a say.


7 posted on 05/03/2024 2:56:42 PM PDT by coalminersson
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To: ebb tide

I’ve read a bunch of stuff about all this over the years, and even among all that content this short piece is a standout.

He really says it all.

I am a Protestant now. Did that happen because of the New Mass, no, not really. Did it happen because of this idiot, Bergoglio? No. Would it have happened if they had left things alone back in the 60s/70s? I would say most likely not, although obviously that’s speculation.

And, just to answer a question anyone might have: I don’t mind the Service at my Presbyterian church, it is nearly identical to the new Mass. But I never minded Protestant Churches or Services, what I minded was the RC Church trying to be that.

Things need to be what they are, not try to be what they are not.

The failure of the congregational singing proves this point to me even after all these decades.

Nevertheless, I consider myself a sister-in-arms to all Trad Caths, and it they ever try and haul you all off, they’ll have to haul me off too.


8 posted on 05/03/2024 2:58:40 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ebb tide

I am not Roman Catholic, but I love the Latin mass.
In part because of it, at age 72 I took two semesters of introduction to Latin on-line at the University of Maine, Orono.


10 posted on 05/03/2024 3:18:04 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: ebb tide

I’m not a Catholic, but ending the Latin Mass was of a part with post-WW2 Progressive thinking, where even things that were working perfectly fine had to be thrown over so they could become more “modern” and “relevant”.


15 posted on 05/03/2024 3:50:14 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Pope Benedict XVI saw that Catholicism was incompatible with gay priests, and sought to purge the gays. But the opposition was too strong and he was deposed.

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2016/12/07/vatican-reaffirms-ban-gay-priests

He was replaced by pro-gay leftist Francis

https://apnews.com/general-news-7b465b60945f40deb3a68b3de742f84a


21 posted on 05/03/2024 4:07:45 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: ebb tide

Titus 3

3Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, 2to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarrelling, to be gentle, and to show every courtesy to everyone. 3For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, despicable, hating one another. 4But when the goodness and loving-kindness of God our Saviour appeared, 5he saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy, through the water* of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. 6This Spirit he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Saviour, 7so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8The saying is sure.

I desire that you insist on these things, so that those who have come to believe in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works; these things are excellent and profitable to everyone. 9But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10After a first and second admonition, have nothing more to do with anyone who causes divisions, 11since you know that such a person is perverted and sinful, being self-condemned.
12 When I send Artemas to you, or Tychicus, do your best to come to me at Nicopolis, for I have decided to spend the winter there. 13Make every effort to send Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way, and see that they lack nothing. 14And let people learn to devote themselves to good works in order to meet urgent needs, so that they may not be unproductive.

15 All who are with me send greetings to you. Greet those who love us in the faith.

Grace be with all of you.*


55 posted on 05/04/2024 7:42:53 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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