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To: Philsworld; Elsie
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like

Hmmmm...don't see anything in there about Sabbath keeping... Do you understand that it isn't the keeping of the commandments or the abstaining from the works of the flesh that saves you? You continue to insist you believe salvation is by grace through faith but you contradict yourself (something the Holy Spirit inspired Scriptures do NOT do) every time with your SDA cult-speak. If our works don't save us, they don't keep us saved, either. I've tried, as have many others to show this essential truth, but I'll keep praying that the Holy Spirit turns on the light in your heart to what grace really means.

    And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work. (Romans 11:6)

BTW...you need to get over your obsession with Ravi. It almost sounds like you're jealous.

196 posted on 03/29/2024 12:32:22 PM PDT by boatbums (When you dwell in the shelter of the Most High, you will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. )
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To: boatbums; Elsie

....of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, THAT THEY WHICH DO SUCH THINGS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Why would Paul need to warn Christians about these sins, if committed AFTER grace, if salvation was assured and locked in? The answer is that doing these things isn’t walking in the Spirit and we will ALL be judged by God’s law, BEGINNING AT THE HOUSE OF GOD.

Those who claim God’s grace are under an even higher obligation to obey, out of love for what Christ did for us on the cross.


197 posted on 03/29/2024 1:24:52 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: boatbums

——>BTW...you need to get over your obsession with Ravi. It almost sounds like you’re jealous.

Jealous? Nope. He’s the gift that keeps on giving and the greatest, golden poster boy for the OSAS/OJAJ lie.


198 posted on 03/29/2024 1:47:15 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: boatbums; Elsie; imardmd1

——>Hmmmm...don’t see anything in there about Sabbath keeping.

Why would you? Paul, here, is specifically talking about works of the flesh. However, I did notice that adultery, one of the 10 commandments (of which Sabbath keeping is included), is there.

But, the Sabbath, and the rest of the 10 commandments are included here:

Matthew 5:
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Those who break God’s law and TEACH others to do it, will be held under a higher standard in the judgment. Oops, you, Elsie, and Imardmd1 are already judged. So, you guys will be fine. (maybe not).


201 posted on 03/29/2024 1:59:20 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: boatbums; imardmd1; Elsie
---->Do you understand that it isn't the keeping of the commandments or the abstaining from the works of the flesh that saves you.

Of course I do. I also understand JUDGMENT.

Romans 2:

12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Eccl 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

204 posted on 03/29/2024 2:32:54 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: boatbums

——>If our works don’t save us, they don’t keep us saved

Never said they did. You assume I believe that because you don’t/can’t/won’t understand God’s Judgment, and that He expects obedience from those that claim grace.


205 posted on 03/29/2024 2:49:12 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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