Posted on 03/03/2024 3:31:37 PM PST by OneVike
Jews were Israelites.
Start going off on a tangent when you know very well what I am talking about.
Jews are Israelites, and Israelites are Jews. All tribes became Jews, there are none other than the Levites, and even they go by the name Jews.
You go from one argument to another.
Are you a Democrat? Because you pick and chose what you want to talk about so you don’t have to answer the questions and defend you erroneous beliefs.
That is what Liberals do.
How could Abraham obey God's laws if God never told him about them? By accident?
Only the ones we know he practiced. Moral Laws and not worshipping other Gods.
Wow, you truly like to creat things out of nothing.
This is how cults get started.
You cannot know what laws, or statutes He speaks of, because the best we can do is look at Job, because the book of Job is older than Genesis. Thus we get an idea, but none that leads us to what you claim. Otherwise you want to put things in a place it does not exist.
You now claim you know what God was thinking when that was written?
Be carefull.
Jesus Fullfilled The Law and The Prophets and Every Day is A Holy Day to me.
I'm trying to correct your understanding. All Jews are not Israelites and all Israelites are not Jews.
Under the new covenant we become part of the Israel of God through the sacrifice of Christ:
Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—
Eph 2:12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
So IF you are a Christian you have joined the commonwealth of Israel. and in fac the new covenant is ONLY made with Israel and judah.
Heb_8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—
So IF the Sabbath was only for Israel then when you joined Israel through the new covenant thorugh the blood of Christ you should have started obeying God and keeping his Sabbath. Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
Pharisee
——>Abraham, of whom no record exists of him ever keeping the Sabbath, and who never kept the Law, since it did not exist until hundreds of years later.
How would Joseph, the great grandson of Abraham, know that ADULTERY was a sin, if the law didn’t exist and he predates the law being given at Sinai?
Eze_22:26 Her priests have violated My law and profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them.
Actually, when the Northern Kingdom was taken away by the Assyrians, the ones left joined the Kingdom of Judah, the tribes of Manasseh, Benjamin, and others joined the tribe of Judah not long after the two kingdoms split, and when the Northern kingdom set up a different God and Temple many disgruntled members of the ten tribes left and joined the Southern Tribe and assimilated into the Kingdom Of Judah and became jews. If you ever read your Bible you would find the information in both the books of Kings and Chronicles.
Plus it is all documented by the Jews themselves if you ever want to read the Jewish writings.
The belief that the ten tribes are lost is a lie. God knew where they were and brought many into the Kingdom of Judah and they eventually became jews.
So yes, today all Israelites are Jews, and Jews were already Israelites because they are children of Jacob.
Despite a clear bible statement that ABRAHAM listened to God and obeyed God's laws commandments, statutes and laws there are those who hate God's law so much that they feel justified to break it.
——>...and Every Day is A Holy Day to me.
Not to God. 6 days are for work. 1 days is set aside as holy.
Exodus 20:8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
——>Despite a clear bible statement that ABRAHAM listened to God and obeyed God’s laws commandments, statutes and laws there are those who hate God’s law so much that they feel justified to break it.
Yes, they hate God’s law and those who keep it.
None of that matters to my point. THe point is that biblically we join ourselves to the Israel of God when we enter into the new covenant through Christ. That's the way it was understood in the new testament by Jews, Israelites and gentiles.
Rom_9:6 But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,
Do you suppose that Metmom can come up with an answer to this question? Maybe one of her bible college graduate friends can help out?
How would Joseph, the great grandson of Abraham, know that ADULTERY was a sin, if the law didn’t exist and he predates the law being given at Sinai?
Marriage and the Sabbath were both instituted at creation.
Once I played Black Sabbath at 78 speed, man.
This whole thing is predicted by the apostles.
There are people who claim to keep the sabbath who don’t keep it at all, they just claim to.
God made a covenant with a specific group of people.
There are ten commandments as well as 603 additional laws.
Israel says “Yes! We will keep your covenant!”
Israel proceeds to break every aspect of the covenant.
God says, “I knew from the beginning that you would never keep your agreement with me, but I will not let your unfaithfulness prevent me from keeping my word.”
God sends His son to pay the penalty of sin for every man ever born into the world.
God says “Hey, Israel! You can be saved by what my Son did.”
Furthermore, Church, You can be saved by what my Son did.”
God also says, “Hey world full of satan followers! You can be saved by what my Son did!”
The church comes into covenant with God because they are His from before the foundation of the world.
True Israel will eventually recognize the Son of God because they are His from before the foundation of the world.
The satan followers will never accept God’s covenant because they were never His and have chosen to never allow God to be their redeemer.
Some people will come along and say, “I keep number four! I keep number four! I’m better than you are!”
Even though they don’t truly observe the sabbath, they just claim to keep it.
The law was never given to the Japanese, the Germans, the Russians or anyone other than the children of Israel.
People who try to latch onto one aspect of the law to become righteous are under obligation to keep the entire law, which isn’t too likely, seeing they can’t even keep the sabbath.
I agree.
——>You cannot know what laws, or statutes He speaks of, because the best we can do is look at Job, because the book of Job is older than Genesis. Thus we get an idea, but none that leads us to what you claim. Otherwise you want to put things in a place it does not exist.
No, I can look at Joseph, Abraham’s great grandson. Apparently, he knew that Adultery was a great sin against God. How did he know that? Certainly it was passed on from generation to generation. The commandment against adultery is included in God’s 10 commandment law.
How did Joseph know that Adultery was a sin if he predated Sinai? HOW?????
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