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To: ebb tide

“So do you, like Bergoglio, believe Hell could be empty?”

Didn’t say that at all. Never even insinuated it. But interpreting the picture of what appears to be a risen Christ who was buried supposedly without clothes doing anything over Judas, in a scene that is nothing more than a redition and obviously not the truth considering the three problems I displayed.

Additionally, there are two tales about what happens to Judas after betraying Jesus, both resulting in his death. Matthew 27 (NIV) says that he becomes filled with regret and commits suicide by hanging. On the other hand, Acts 1:18 (NIV) says that Judas dies suddenly in a field he bought with the money he received for betraying Jesus.

27 When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:

2 And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.

5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

“Acts 1:18 - 18 (With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.

Neither event mentioned the meeting of Christ and Judas after the crucifixion and his death description. So is it real or just the painters imagination? I don’t know of any proof.

wy69


19 posted on 03/02/2024 1:02:53 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: whitney69
You stated,

"Jesus forgives sin and was possibly doing that to Judas in the picture".

That's not in the Bible.

So is it real or just the painters imagination? I don’t know of any proof.

Are you serious? You really don't know of any proof?

And now I am not in the world, and these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name whom thou has given me; that they may be one, as we also are. While I was with them, I kept them in thy name. Those whom thou gavest me have I kept; and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture may be fulfilled.
John 17:11-12

Who do you think that "son of perdition" who is now "lost" is?

Try spending more time studying the Bible rather than thinking outside of it, like the painter and Bergoglio are doing.

25 posted on 03/02/2024 1:32:07 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: whitney69

The good thief, Dismas, asked for Christ’s forgiveness; and he received it. That’s in the Bible.

Judas asking Christ for forgiveness is not in the Bible. Nor is there any record of the second thief on a cross asking for, or receiving, forgiveness from Christ.


26 posted on 03/02/2024 1:38:24 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: whitney69
What "bible" are you sourcing?

The following is from the Doay-Rheims bible:

 16- Men, brethren, the scripture must needs be fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was the leader of them that apprehended Jesus  [Acts Of Apostles 1:16]  17 Who was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.  18 And he indeed hath possessed a field of the reward of iniquity, and being hanged, burst asunder in the midst: and all his bowels gushed out.

Acts, Chapter 1

29 posted on 03/02/2024 5:34:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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