Posted on 02/25/2024 2:19:36 PM PST by ebb tide
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“Scripture is the Manger
Christ is laid in”
Martin Luther
Except for those books of scripture the heretic tossed.
Heresy is calling a teacher father. The Bible clearly explains who to call the father.
Which heretic? Which books?
But I'll bet my lunch money you don't take John 6 anywhere near as literally as you pretend to take Matthew 23. Why is that?
But I'll bet my lunch money you (Catholics) don't take Matthew 23 anywhere near as literally as you to take John 6. Why is that?
Jesus' command to call no man Father is as clear and explicit as can be.
So..... why do you all do it?
And you call your sperm donor what? Bob?
“I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14–15).
Better tell Paul he’s a heretic.
You can deflect and accuse all you want, but Jesus command was to not address religious leaders with the title of *Father*.
Why are you all disobeying a clear, direct, concise command of Jesus?
If you think Paul was out of line, does that justify you to do the same? Is that how you rationalize disobeying Him?
I just gave you a quote from Saint Paul that shows point blank that you are wrong.
I’m sure you don’t call your father Bob.
You’re the one saying SAINT PAUL, one of the apostles, is wrong. That’s not just arrogant, it’s heresy.
Why are you deflecting the teaching of the church for your interpretation of Scripture that is obviously lacking?
Here, read this before responding:
https://www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-father
No, I am not.
Jesus was talking about using titles like *Father*, *Rabbi*, and *Teacher* (Instructor) for religious leaders.
Catholics are the ones accusing Paul of disobeying Jesus and then they turn around and use it as an excuse to sin themselves. *Well, Paul did it, so that means we can get away with it, too.* is not going to fly with God for addressing your priests as Father ________ and pope (Just another term for father).
Taking the command in context does not preclude recognizing that children call their male parent *father*, nor does it preclude using it as an illustration to make a point.
It does prohibit calling someone *Father Paul* (which Paul was never called) or *Father John* or *Father Peter* or whatever name you chose to tack onto a title Jesus told you not to use and that is NEVER used in the NT. Ever.
No we aren’t.
You obviously read nothing I posted.
Maybe you should listen to Father Paul more.
Here's the problem for Romans.....from the CCC.
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God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day.
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If you don't get that right you're gonna have a hard time with the rest.
And from Catholic Answers...which IMHO is home of some of the most disingenuous apologists for Rome....
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Karlo: Yeah, Susie, I would recommend you go to our website, Catholic.com. My colleague and friend Trent Horn wrote a great article, using this event when it first came out as sort of a tee-up in order to present the Church's position and the Church's understanding on the creation story in the book of Genesis.
And basically, Susie, the Church gives us no definitive interpretation of the narrative that we find in the creation story. The Church allows for Catholics to hold to various interpretations. So one could take a literalistic view of the narrative in the creation story, where the whole entire universe was created in six 24-hour periods, if one is inclined to take that interpretation. A Catholic is permitted to take that interpretation.
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Isn't it amazing that the group that claims to have been around for 2000 years and is supposed to be the ultimate interpreter of the Scriptures....cannot give us a clear answer on this most important issue.
If you don't get Genesis right then everything else is up for grabs.
Paul is not claiming to be called "Father" as Roman Catholics call their priests against Biblical injunctions on doing so.
Better to start reading the NT in context.
Hey, the OP is the real heretic for tossing the pope out. Though the OP cannot tell us, or will not tell us, which was the last legit pope. And he’s one tossing rocks. LOL!!
By referring to these people as their spiritual sons and spiritual children, Peter, Paul, and John imply their own roles as spiritual fathers.
Whoa, there cowboy....it's a big leap from implying to meaning.
And in none of their writings do we see them write a letter from "Father Paul" or "Pope Peter".
Catholic answers....LOL!!!!
5.) Authority in establishing correct interpretations of the texts of the Holy Scriptures belongs to the Magisterium of the Church, under the essential condition of continuity between interpretations already consecrated and those subsequent;
The group that claims to have been around 2000 years has only dogmatically defined a very small number of passages in the New Testament. IIRC, it's less than 40.
So how is a Roman Catholic supposed to know what is the "correct interpretation" of the texts????
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