Did Jesus Truly Say, “I Will Build My Church Upon Peter?”

The reason For My faith ^ | 6/3/22 | Chuck Ness

[usconservative]

It’s ludicrous to claim that Jesus would build HIS church upon a sinful flawed individual. HE emphatically stated HE would build it upon the “truth” of which Peter recognized.

In a word: "duh."

Lost count of how many "discussions" I've been in with Catholics (of which I count myself as a former one) where I've said exactly this: The rock was the truth Peter spoke, not Peter the man."

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out God's perfect truth was placed upon an imperfect man (Peter) to build God's church.

[metmom]

You’ve been asked that before and have always refused to answer.

So then, another question. Why criticize others for rejecting the very same popes YOU reject constantly?

Or why do you expect others to put themselves in submission to and under the authority you yourself refuse to recognize and don’t put yourself under the authority of?

[eastsider]

Looking at Mt 16:18 from a strictly grammatical point of view, it's necessary to deal with the demonstrative adjective ταύτῃ in the phrase ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ. Given that a Greek noun comprises a base (which supplies a noun's basic meaning) and an ending, there is only word anywhere near πέτρᾳ that ταύτῃ could possibly be referencing, and that is Πέτρος, which shares the same base as πέτρᾳ, namely πέτρ-.

[ebb tide]

I don’t answer to apostates.

[NWFree]

“ If anything other than simple faith is required for salvation, then Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross was insufficient”

The thief on the cross finding salvation in his dying moments with Jesus is a perfect example.

Zero works salvation paradise

[metmom]

If any non-Catholic posted the number of Francis hit pieces you do on almost a daily basis, we’d be accused of Catholic church bashing. Why are you exempt? Or why do you exempt yourself?

[Claud]

Scripture itself says that Peter is a translation of Cephas.

John 1:42.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/1-42.htm

[metmom]

Heck, there’s not even any reliable historical record of Peter ever having been in Rome.

[NWFree]

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To: metmom
The irony of your posts coming from one of the biggest rejecters of Francis as pope this site has ever seen.”

I thought that was me. I must be slipping

[metmom]

Clearly.....

[metmom]

Scripture cannot contradict itself.

It is Truth and there cannot be two true opposing truths at the same time.

[metmom]

No one can even come to Christ without God drawing him or her.

So yes, even ordinary believers are given divine insight like that.

[ebb tide]

Because I’m a catholic and you’re no longer one.

What part of that do you not understand?

[roving]

There is nothing in the Bible calling anyone a pope or a Catholic. Catholic Church made that up

[Claud]

Heck, there’s not even any reliable historical record of Peter ever having been in Rome.

The evidence of Peter in Rome is far, far stronger than for anywhere else on the planet, and it begins in the very first century. Not even the Eastern Orthodox, who disagree vehemently with us on the papal issue, will dispute that.

[metmom]

Jesus never did anything but condemn tradition that was added to Scripture.

He ALWAYS used the Word to validate Himself, His miracles, and against Satan in His temptation.

[Honest Nigerian]

Big “Thank you” to Chuck for this information. Unfortunately, few Catholics will be persuaded to actually think or consider the facts. They are usually locked into a cognitive dissonance of circular logic.
But I applaud the effort to show the truth of Scripture.

[metmom]

*This* is NOT referring to a person.

The correct way would be *you* or *He*.

[Claud]

Looking at Mt 16:18 from a strictly grammatical point of view, it's necessary to deal with the demonstrative adjective ταύτῃ in the phrase ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ. Given that a Greek noun comprises a base (which supplies a noun's basic meaning) and an ending, there is only word anywhere near πέτρᾳ that ταύτῃ could possibly be referencing, and that is Πέτρος, which shares the same base as πέτρᾳ, namely πέτρ-.

Exactly right. Thank you.

[G Larry]

Ya, but that's NOT the subject under discussion!

The subject is whether Christ was clearly stating that "...you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,..."

And the answer is YES, Christ was referring to Peter!