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3 Reasons the Magi Were Persian ie Iranians
Hormuz Shariat ^ | 22 December 2017 | Hormuz Shariat

Posted on 01/06/2024 12:27:53 AM PST by Cronos

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To: MayflowerMadam

You are exactly right.


41 posted on 01/06/2024 11:11:16 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't match your biography, what good is it?)
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To: SeekAndFind; Phinneous; golux; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Many have speculated what that "Star" was. Some have said that it was an astronomical alignment of planets, others say it was a Comet... all these to me, are unsatisfactory. The Star MOVED to lead the Magi to the Messiah's home.

Something completely different, for real-time:

In Western Christianity, the feast commemorates principally (but not solely) the visit of the Magi to the Christ Child, and thus Jesus Christ's physical manifestation to the Gentiles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)

Matthew 2
9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

In a modern visual that everyone can look down upon, to see and touch (or not):

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In Hebrew, a house is a "byte" [ื‘ื™ืช], which by nature is 8. ๐ŸงŠ

Sarah was 90 when she was ( ); i.e. great with child.

The Jewish tradition is that Rachel is the mother of all Israel -- by nature a big house.

Rachel [ืจื—ืœ]

= 238, &

2^3 = 8. Plenty of room:

The Star MOVED to lead the Magi to the Messiah's home.

x, y, z... & t.

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Keep on the Sunnyside (Johnny Cash)

Isa 40.3
A voice cries, Prepare in the wilderness the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God:

Epiphany: "Now ๅทฅ &!"

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42 posted on 01/06/2024 12:30:17 PM PST by Ezekiel (๐Ÿ†˜๏ธ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars โ™‚๏ธ, aka every man)
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To: Cronos

I’ve wondered if the wise men were experts on the Book of Daniel, and figured out from Daniel’s writings when Jesus would be born.


43 posted on 01/06/2024 12:41:57 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: napscoordinator

Lol, names were never mentioned in the Bible. Whoever Luke or Matthew were interviewing could care less about that detail since they were probably an infant at the time.


44 posted on 01/06/2024 3:28:20 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: napscoordinator; MayflowerMadam

naps - the Bible doesn’t say the number of Magi nor does it call them kings. The Bible wasn’t added to or changed for the Magi.


45 posted on 01/11/2024 5:24:39 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: MayflowerMadam

well, they definitely were not kings - the Bible calls them specifically Magi - and magi were Zoroastrian priestly caste (like Brahmins)

The journey would not have taken months or years. A journey from the eastern Parthian empire (Afghanistan) to Bethlehelm by FOOT would have taken about 40 days, but by camel would be about a month.

There is nothing about Jesus as a child living in a house - where do you get that?

As to their number, it’s not there in the Bible, but the earliest tradition is Ethiopian which numbers them as 40 — though “40”is a symbolic number in the bible and most likely is not to be taken as literally forty.


46 posted on 01/11/2024 6:20:47 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Celtic Conservative

you’re right.


47 posted on 01/11/2024 6:21:22 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: know.your.why

Why would there be a comparison to Islam? The traditional religion of Iran is Zoroastrianism


48 posted on 01/11/2024 6:22:04 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Bigg Red

Wish you the same


49 posted on 01/11/2024 6:22:21 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: AZJeep

Good point and we need to also note that many of today’s “Arabs” are really Arabized Arameans, Assyrians, even Israeli, Syriacs, Egyptians, Berbers etc. etc.


50 posted on 01/11/2024 6:28:03 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s been known since the 1st century. It’s just important to remind people every now and again


51 posted on 01/11/2024 6:35:05 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: arthurus; MayflowerMadam

Mayflower - sorry, I mistyped in my response to you above.

Arthurus - well, it might suggest, but it’s not defined. “house” could mean manger, child could include newborn babe etc. or it could mean a 2 year old - it’s just not clear.

The up to 2 years of age massacred isn’t clear either - if He was 2, then why not only boys around 2?


52 posted on 01/11/2024 6:37:45 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

“There is nothing about Jesus as a child living in a house - where do you get that?”

“Matthew 2:11 - And when they were come into the HOUSE, they saw the YOUNG CHILD with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him”

” As to their number, itโ€™s not there in the Bible, but the earliest tradition is Ethiopian which numbers them as 40 “

Christians aren’t supposed to “do” tradition. The Bible is the sole Authority.


53 posted on 01/11/2024 10:50:16 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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