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Should Genesis Be Taken Literally?
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2023 | Russell Gregg

Posted on 11/09/2023 1:18:45 AM PST by spirited irish

A Babylonian tablet fragment found at Nippur, an ancient Babylonian site in the same general location that Abraham came from. The area outlined in black is a record about the Flood. There are more than 300 known records of the Flood world-wide, with about 30 of them in writing. Some are remarkably close in their details to the original—the biblical account.

Creationists are often accused of believing that the whole Bible should be taken literally. This is not so! Rather, the key to a correct understanding of any part of the Bible is to ascertain the intention of the author of the portion or book under discussion. This is not as difficult as it may seem, as the Bible obviously contains:

Poetry—as in the Psalms, where the repetition or parallelism of ideas is in accordance with Hebrew ideas of poetry, without the rhyme (parallelism of sound) and metre (parallelism of time) that are important parts of traditional English poetry.

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotandliberty.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics
KEYWORDS: bible; genesis
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To: spirited irish

I’m always amazed to see the artifacts with biblical recordings on them, and people can figure out what’s said. God’s history of our world is fascinating.


21 posted on 11/09/2023 5:40:22 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: spirited irish

About 30 years ago, I met a guy who was a missionary in Papua New Guinea. He was back in the states after spending five years with a remote tribe. I asked if they had a flood story.

He told me that until he and another missionary arrived, the tribe had been completely remote from civilization. The only Whtie man they had ever seen was a government official who came for a day to tell them to quit being cannibals. They had absolutely zero opportunity to hear the Genesis story, yet, like every culture, they had a legend where the earth was destroyed and re-populated by a few people who survived. As I recall, the number was five and they lived in a canoe.

Anthropology like this and archeological discoveries are constantly proving the veracity and accuracy of Scripture.


22 posted on 11/09/2023 5:41:01 AM PST by cyclotic (It's a great time to live in America. It's like the collapse of the Roman Empire except with wi-fi)
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To: cyclotic

Thank-you for sharing!


23 posted on 11/09/2023 5:42:20 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish

Try reading it geologically, it fits.

The timeline is way off, but large counting numbers were not conceptualized until much later (India).

The lightbulb for me is where scriptures describes the day that the grasses appeared. Earth sciences have found in various ways that, yes there was a historical period where grasses suddenly appeared. And science continues to regard that as a mystery...

Was the geological record that we understand uninterrupted? Lately the magnetic pole shifting theories suggest massive crust changes catastrophically changing the entire planet surface in a matter of several cataclysmic earth days.

Fascinating stuff.


24 posted on 11/09/2023 5:52:44 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Clutch Martin

Interesting indeed! Thanks for sharing!


25 posted on 11/09/2023 5:55:06 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: FarCenter; spirited irish

So you have the ability to discern the intent of God and sit inn judgment on Him?

That’s pretty brazen.

What should he have done that would have met with your approval?


26 posted on 11/09/2023 6:03:04 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: FarCenter
"Second, He exacted collective punishment on mankind by drowning almost all, including infants and the unborn children."

You skipped Genesis 6:4. The entire earth was corrupted through the actions of the Watchers.

27 posted on 11/09/2023 6:08:38 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: cyclotic

Indeed it is fascinating.


28 posted on 11/09/2023 6:11:03 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Clutch Martin

“Lately the magnetic pole shifting theories suggest massive crust changes catastrophically changing the entire planet surface in a matter of several cataclysmic earth days.”

I am all in with this theory. I think Hapgood was right. Geology proves there was indeed a flood, and crustal displacement would indeed cause this. Many ancient accounts also speak of extreme winds at the same time. Crustal displacement would cause this also.


29 posted on 11/09/2023 6:22:08 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Flag_This

Watchers? That’s a novel translation of Nephilim. Say more.


30 posted on 11/09/2023 6:29:17 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

The DNA was corrupted.


31 posted on 11/09/2023 6:31:18 AM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: metmom

>>What should he have done that would have met with your approval?

He could have changed the minds of the evil ones and not killed the innocents. He is omnipotent, after all.


32 posted on 11/09/2023 6:31:24 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter
"Watchers? That’s a novel translation of Nephilim. Say more."

The Watchers aren't the Nephilim. The nephilim were the offspring of the Watcher/human pairings. The Watchers were angels who rebelled against God and their reason for taking "wives" from humans was to corrupt the seed of the woman, to prevent the punishment foretold in Genesis 3:15.

33 posted on 11/09/2023 6:59:17 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: spirited irish

I know I do!


34 posted on 11/09/2023 7:11:18 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: FarCenter

Supposedly the people of earth were very evil back then..
If you think about it...we getting close...
Lots of babies and infants are killed nowadays...
Elderly people are being murdered....
Young people have their gang wars and revenge shootings
Governmental grifting and corruption abound..
Wives and husbands cheating or beating on each other...even killing each other..
Ethnic wars....monetary wars....living space wars...
Lying...deceit
Sexual infidelity...
Other than reproductive “sex” being practiced...
Creation denied...we are just unstable complex clump of cells..evolving toward...unknown territory..
Society unraveling...
Forcing “medicine” on the whole population of the earth?
...the end of the human race?
All done without “direct” action by God?
“No thanks God, we can wipe ourselves out by ourselves”


35 posted on 11/09/2023 7:23:21 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: God luvs America

You saw them and justly enjoyed them in 1978 (just after Hackett departure), you should have known better than to see them in 2021!


36 posted on 11/09/2023 7:42:16 AM PST by gnickgnack2 (They’re pushing us because they want us to push back. Then comes martial law. They see it as a win-w)
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To: gnickgnack2

Just saw Steve Hackett last week. Played the entire “Foxtrot” album, it was great!


37 posted on 11/09/2023 7:42:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Getready

There is a pattern here.

God creates, man screws up, God reboots.

First, there was Adam and Eve. They screw up. God drives them out of Eden and reboots religion as sacrifice and atonement through burnt offerings (Cain and Abel).

Second, men become evil. God kills most in a flood. Hopes that will work.

Third, men become evil again. God chooses Abraham. Starts religion based on burnt offerings (see Abraham, Isaac, and ram), a Chosen People by matrilineal descent, as well as detailed laws (see Moses).

Fourth, Chosen People become faithless. God sends Christ to replace burnt offerings with the eucharist and replaces detailed laws with principles of faith and the Holy Spirit.

That’s not working out, so next comes the Apocalypse.

God’s quality control with respect to His creations seems pretty poor. Four failures already with more to come.


38 posted on 11/09/2023 7:44:17 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: gnickgnack2

The band wasn’t band- Phil Collins was frightening.

Funny thing is between 1978 and 2018 i probably went to 30 Moody Blues concerts and they were always great. In fact i just saw Justin Hayward two weeks ago and he was terrific. Looked old, but he was terrific.


39 posted on 11/09/2023 7:54:22 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: know.your.why

Hardcore Christian just seem to love to quarrel about the words in the Bible, dont they?

= = =

So just what is the opposite of a Hardcore Christian? Do they have the correct interpretation?

Are they Softcore Christians?


40 posted on 11/09/2023 7:56:41 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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