Posted on 11/08/2023 12:11:15 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
Exactly! All of them reject one thing: the One, True Church founded by Jesus Christ
>>if God revoked his promises to Israel, what keeps him from revoking them again, and does God really change not (as Malachi 3:6 says)?
God really does seem to change. He reacts to events that happen in His creation.
After the Fall, he drives Adam and Eve out of Eden.
After men become wicked, he saves only Noah, his sons, and their spouses and drowns the rest in a flood.
After men become wicked again, he chooses Abraham and his descendants to be the Chosen People to show the way and presumably abandons the Gentiles to their fate.
After the Israelis become faithless and animal sacrifices ineffective, he sends Jesus, His Son, as the ultimate sacrifice to begin a new religion based on faith in Christ.
So yes, God abandons promises depending on the behavior of men.
Another interest fact, the Geneva Bible was the bible that came over on the Mayflower and served as the primary bible translation for many years in the New World.
Yes we’re in the age of grace right now, but once The Lord pulls the plug we’ll be in Daniel’s 70th week at the point the “covenant with many” takes place.
There are still plenty of Gentiles (and Jews) that should fill in the ranks of this “Time of the Gentiles”.
The technology, Israel back in the land, and us coming up on the 2,000 year anniversary of Christ’s crucifixion suggests we’re closing in on the very last days of the End Times.
I read that when I was looking into your suggestion.
Seems bizarre we deviated from that translation as it was pretty precise.
One has to read the Bible in context to understand it. If not one can go down a rabbit hole really quick.
You cite this passage to support your position...If your eye causes you to sin, should you literally pluck it out (Mark 9:47)?
However, no where in the NT do we see this practiced by any believer.
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I've posted the passage in the context of Jesus' speech on this....and His grave warnings on our conduct and the impact of it.
42“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. 43“If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, 44[where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.] 45“If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell, 46[where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.] 47“If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell, 48where THEIR WORM DOES NOT DIE, AND THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
Mark 9:42-47 NASB
God does not change. His nature is what it is.
While how He relates to people has changed, it is in fulfillment of His promises, not abandonment of them.
What promises specifically do you think God abandoned? Because that is a pretty serious accusation against God.
It’s also called “The Breeches” version because in Genesis it says that God created “breeches” for them. Check out Genesis 3:7.
But you do need God's; may you receive it in abundance.
May God have mercy on you as well.
Add me to the Ping list, please. That is a great article, by the way.
If what we see in Catholicism throughout the years and especially these days is supposed to be an example of what authority is supposed to do for us, thanks but no thanks. You can have your authority and keep it.
I’m just fine without authority like yours to answer to or tell me what to do and what to beleive.
so the old testament means nothing? that God chose a people, the Jews and said all kinds of things at various times about how they were His chosen people with plans and purposes for them?
sure in the new testament He made a way to graft us into relationship with Him, but it does not mean His chosen group of people, the Jews, do not play a part in HIS plan.
it’s in the book, His words. He has a plan for Jewish people, and a plan for non Jews who believe in Jesus, and a plan for those who choose not to believe at all.
The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”
His plan is that all accept Christ.
“May God have mercy on you as well.”
Thank you. I received unmerited mercy 2,000 years ago. You’d do yourself well to understand the full meaning of those Words while you still have breath.
Agree on that - the signs are certainly all around us.
“I have a family member who believes this, and it has utterly poisoned him. It now has developed into a vicious hatred of Israel and of Jews.”
Probably ...as that particular ‘interpretation’ of Christian doctrine was intended to do. It’s just another tool of Satan to divide and conquer by confusing and conflating the word of God. And as you’ve no doubt noticed, the world is in yet another pendulum swing towards anti-Semitism. Quite possibly the last such trend that will occur in these end times.
We’re still here.
It’s not all humankind, nor is it men in and of themselves He’s against. It’s against evil, which He has always been opposed to.
Do evil, and you will find yourself on the losing and against a just God. Sin must be punished for justice to be done. But He would rather that men repented and turned to Him than that He should destroy them.
They ARE the one, true church being built up by Jesus Christ.
What is rejected is false religious systems instituted by men calling themselves churches and the only way to God.
JESUS is the only way to God. not religion. Not a church or denomination, Not religious practices and activities.
It’s Jesus alone who died for them and Jesus alone who can save them.
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