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To: ADSUM

—> Do we believe that Jesus can change the bread and wine into His Body and Blood (Transubstantiation) just as He changed water into wine (John 2:1-11)?

Even if you ignore the metaphor Christ used and assume they ate His actual body, He never said it would ever happen again, nor that men in costumes could perform this transformation.

Instead, we read we are to break her ear and drink wine in memory of Him until He returns.


36 posted on 10/02/2023 3:57:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Interesting. In the gospels, Jesus makes it sound like it was a one time thing. Put Paul, having it revealed to him by Jesus, indicates that it is a recurring thing.

And Paul states that WHENEVER you drink the wine or eat the bread to remember Jesus. Paul talks about not eating it or drinking it in an unworthy manner and to examine themselves beforehand. Which one does before taking Communion.

However, Paul also says “So, my brothers, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. If anyone is hungry, he should eat at home, so that when you come together it will not result in judgment.”

Which to me implies that it isn’t just for a ritual, but WHENEVER we eat or drink with fellow believers, that we are to honor Christ and remember him, and to have His spirit within us.

The crux of the Lord’s Prayer is “Give us this day our daily bread”. And it isn’t about food, but the Bread of Life.


125 posted on 10/05/2023 3:23:31 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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