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Regarding Abortion, the Views of Regular Churchgoers are Surprisingly Mixed
The Washington Stand ^ | August 26, 2023 | David Closson

Posted on 08/28/2023 2:19:01 PM PDT by Morgana

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1 posted on 08/28/2023 2:19:01 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
To me, it's simple.

If there's no heart beat . . . you're dead . . . . . a dead human being.

If there IS a heart beat, you're alive, a live human being.


Change my mind

2 posted on 08/28/2023 2:24:32 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: Morgana

Regular church goers practice birth control. Can’t practice birth control without abortion it’s the plan b

Abortion is birth control and stems from birth control

Of course regular churchgoers are pro abortion


3 posted on 08/28/2023 2:25:11 PM PDT by stanne
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To: knarf

Are you talking about detecting the heartbeat of the unborn baby?


4 posted on 08/28/2023 2:29:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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If America’s most devout Christians are confused about abortion …
They are not. Therefore, the author is lying.

Those who call themselves Christian and “are confused about abortion” are not Christians. They may be “devout”, though, although about a very non-Christian worldview.
5 posted on 08/28/2023 2:31:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I believe yes, he is.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 2:32:27 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Olog-hai

Exactly.


7 posted on 08/28/2023 2:32:40 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: stanne

“Can’t practice birth control without abortion it’s the plan b”

That is STUPID. Lost of people have practiced birth control without ever having an abortion.

And notice this survey doesn’t distinguish between churches who endorse abortion, or between people who had an abortion BEFORE salvation.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 2:37:18 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Olog-hai
Those who call themselves Christian and “are confused about abortion” are not Christians.

This is known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

Doesn't really matter if they're "real" Christians or not. They go to church and they vote.

9 posted on 08/28/2023 2:42:21 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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No it is not. As it’s written, you shall know them by their fruits (Matthew 7:16). One who calls oneself a Christian is not necessarily one, but lying to you and probably lying to oneself. It is not “illogical” to expose a fake Christian (2 Corinthians 11:13).

Going to church and voting does not make them Christian either. That’s the red herring fallacy.


10 posted on 08/28/2023 2:55:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“Lost of people have practiced birth control without ever having an abortion”

That is not what I said

People don’t think “I’ll practice BC and have no plan for tge 10% failure rate. They have abortion as plan b

They don’t practice BC and answer in a survey “abortion is always wrong. They say it’s complicated. They’re for it.


11 posted on 08/28/2023 2:56:46 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Yes, of course . . . it's an abortion thread.

Killing an alive human being is murder.

Has there EVER been a (pregnancy) that was not recognized as a human pregnancy, allowed to continue to birth only to find it was NOT a mass of cells and goop ?

Nope . . . every ONE of 'em result in a human being.

The heartbeat is the key to life.

12 posted on 08/28/2023 2:59:20 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: knarf

Christianity is the only religion that claims that as soon as conception (the egg being fertilized, no heartbeat) it is a human being with a spirit.

Various other faiths (Muslim, Hindu, etc.) have the human spirit entering at various other times (3 weeks after conception, etc.).


13 posted on 08/28/2023 3:00:45 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

The heartbeat thing is also a fallacy. Cell replication is life and so recognized scientifically.


14 posted on 08/28/2023 3:04:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Morgana

Now do the real Church. The real Church doesn’t kill babies.


15 posted on 08/28/2023 3:28:29 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: 21twelve

I agree, but no one except a married man can document WHEN that date of conception MIGHT be.


16 posted on 08/28/2023 3:42:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: Morgana

“Churches”.


17 posted on 08/28/2023 3:54:05 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Morgana

Three old ladies in the front row said that they were voting for the Democrat.

I asked them if they knew how abortions are performed. They did not know.

I told them. They were horrified.

People just don’t know.


18 posted on 08/28/2023 4:01:17 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: Morgana

No confusion with the real church.


19 posted on 08/28/2023 4:38:46 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: knarf

A baby is alive and growing before the heart is formed and starts beating.


20 posted on 08/28/2023 5:02:25 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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