Posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:10 AM PDT by zucchini bob
(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Because it shortens learning time.
The Bible is a think book and takes a long time to get through it and become familiar enough with it to learn stuff.
Yes, the Holy Spirit is the One who teaches as spiritual truths are spiritually discerned and make no sense to the one without the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, but having someone who has studied different topics can consolidate them for someone else so they don't have to waste time digging through the whole Bible on their own is a real time saver.
And teaching from Scripture is not by default adding to it thus proving the RC position of needing tradition to be added to it.
Then there’s YOPIOTCCC - Your own personal interpretation of the catechism of the Catholic church.
or YOPIORC - Your own personal interpretation of Roman Catholicism, and wow have I seen a LOT of THAT in my life.
1.2 billion YOPIORC.
—> Does that mean that those who can’t read are damned?
Teachers, pastors, elders, evangelists all preached God’s Word that people could avoid damnation.
Since you can read, will you avoid damnation? Are you saved?
—> or YOPIORC - Your own personal interpretation of Roman Catholicism, and wow have I seen a LOT of THAT in my life.
Yes.
ebb for instance belongs to a church of one.
How so? I can read a book, including the Bible, much faster than listening to the same book being read to me.
Anything outside the above is not "sola scriptura".
P.S. If one only reads three chapters from the Old Testament and one chapter from the New Testament every day, he will have read the entire Bible in one year.
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, but I will be ok. 👍👍👍👍👍
I used to be a Texas guy too. I was stationed at Laughlin (Del Rio) but I hated the weather. So where am I now? In a south sea island paradise, where I hate the weather.
If YOPIOS means I am able to read the Bible, without a priest telling me what it says, I am all in. 😁 At least I don’t fear hell. I won’t be there. 👍 Have a nice YOPIOS evening. 😆
Not true.
There are many verses on each topic and finding them all and consolidating them is time consuming.
Using teaching outside of Scripture like the early church fathers, and the catechism makes it not Scripture alone.
Someone can teach about prayer using ONLY verses found in the Bible and that makes it Scripture alone for all you need to know about prayer.
That makes it Scripture alone being sufficient for all we need to know about praying to God.
I don’t try to over analyze or *interpret* Scripture.
I read what it says and believe it. Scripture is not that hard to understand unless you want to make it mean something other than what it says.
So I’ve noticed.
I hope you have a delightful YOPIOS Day in paradise Saint mark!!
—-> In a south sea island paradise, where I hate the weather.
😂🤣😅
But the views are great
☀️🌊🏝️👙🐚👧🏽
Seriously, the way Catholics rail against using the Bible alone, you’d think things like *Do not murder*, *Do not lie*, *Do not steal*, *Do not commit adultery* were hard concepts to grasp that need “interpretation” to understand.
There’s more than enough material in Scripture for several lifetimes of study and putting into practice to not even need to worry about the harder to understand stuff.
Plus, they seem to presume that God leaves us to fend for ourselves spiritually. He doesn’t abandon us. He’s always there teaching and guiding and keeping us from going astray.
So someone has an error in some point of theology? God will address it in His own time. Not to mention that one reason that not everyone agrees with all things theologically is a matter of maturity in Christ. New believers are far more likely to have erroneous beliefs as they simply just do not know any better. Or they are bringing in error from previous error laden theology from other religions.
22 When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. 23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. John Chapter 20.
That's not practicing "sola scriptura"; that's practicing "electus scripturae" (that's Latin for "selected scriptue" for those who live in Rio Linda)
What? 1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” isn’t good enough for y’all?
God’s promise to forgive us our sins doesn’t work for you?
Even IF Jesus actually gave the apostles that authority, explain how that is not a contradiction or God’s promise to forgive Himself if we confess?
I’ve explained that passage on these threads several times.
Won’t do it again.
The same sun that softens the wax, hardens the clay.
We just have a thread with some people that have hearts like Pharaoh.
God knows just how to deal with it.
It will require additional heat, unless He graciously opens their eyes.
May he do so.
See what I mean?
That was a perfect example of “electus scripturae”!
Thanks for proving my point, metmom!
Even supposing Jesus may have actually dispensed that ability to the APOSTLES, where does it say that that ability was to be passed down, how it was to be passed down, to whom it was passed down, and that it didn’t die out with the apostles?
Extrapolating one comment to build an entire theology of making a priesthood which can retain sins in contradiction to God’s explicit promise is a perfect example of “electus scripturae”.
Why isn’t God’s promise to forgive good enough for you?
And explain the contradiction you all teach that a priest can retain the sins of someone in direct violation of God’s promise to forgive.
You are the one claiming a contradiction in Scripture. The ball is in your court to explain how God can contradict Himself.
Clearly……
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