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To: mdmathis6

My position is not Armstrong.
I have not made a 6,000 page document to support my beliefs, so I can’t send you anything other than what other scholars have written. However, I’m fairly confident that Bible teaches that man exists only when the Breath of Life and the human body combine to give life. We cease to exist, other than in God’s memory, when we die and wait for the resurrection of man when Michael, the Arch-angel gives His shout to raise the dead.


194 posted on 03/19/2023 2:50:10 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It is not how many that go into Mexico that counts. It is how many that return from Mexico.)
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To: Jonty30

When God knitted you together He gave you a body, a soul, and a spirit. The body has temporal limits. The soul does not, the spirit does not.


195 posted on 03/19/2023 3:15:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Jonty30

Armstrong and his old World Wide Church of God posited the same stuff you did about sinners and the afterlife and a lot of other things he couldn’t support in scripture. Armstronmg argued from an emotional point...that it would be cruel for a loving God to keep sinners alive for eternity to experience the Lake of Fire forever in contradiction to what the Bible says about the eventual reality of sinners’ everlasting torment there.

You’ve been quoted other scriptures from myself and others that do support the opposite views.

The great danger of the teachings of your view is that sinners exposed to it will simply conclude that “why be saved(?) since they will be forever “blanked out of existence” anyway. These folks may decide that they can just wax worse and worse in their sins since their consciousness will be blanked out. Even the great white throne judgment where all the remaining dead (plus those still on Earth alive after the 1000 years of Satan’s imprisonment) will be resurrected, won’t move such sinners since they will be eventually blanked out with no eternal consciousness.

The prospect of eternal consciousness of one’s separation from God after placement in the Lake of Fire is the only scripturally supported and orthodox position of what happens to those who heard the truth of Christ and rejected it. The warnings are stark for a reason. All who have been formed by God in the womb have an eternal presence. Where our presence ultimately resides depends on our response to Christ.

Proverbs 12:6Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped and the golden bowl is crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring and the wheel is broken at the well, 7before the dust returns to the ground from which it came and the spirit returns to God who gave it.


199 posted on 03/19/2023 3:50:19 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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