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‘Blasphemous’: Christians condemn Amazon’s new ‘Holy Spirit’ Ouija board
LifeSite News ^ | February 21, 2023 | Mary Zwicker

Posted on 02/22/2023 12:28:41 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: BipolarBob; wita

‘Tis a good thing the Joseph Smith, Jr. didn’t get hold of one of these!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_and_Seventh_Books_of_Moses


61 posted on 02/23/2023 3:50:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teacherwoes

Some magic is stronger than others.

We now have a generation that has grown up(?) waving Harry Potter wands at things.

Who were spawned by parents that wanted to “Use the force, Luke.”


62 posted on 02/23/2023 3:52:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; wita
Oh, and I had an 8 Ball too.

Ya don't say...?



THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI

HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 16
The wicked take the truth to be hard—Lehi’s sons marry the daughters of Ishmael—The Liahona guides their course in the wilderness—Messages from the Lord are written on the Liahona from time to time—Ishmael dies; his family murmur because of afflictions. Between 600 and 592 B.C.
1 And now it came to pass that after I, Nephi, had made an end of speaking to my brethren, behold they said unto me: Thou hast declared unto us hard things, more than we are able to bear.
2 And it came to pass that I said unto them that I knew that I had spoken ahard things against the wicked, according to the truth; and the righteous have I justified, and testified that they should be lifted up at the last day; wherefore, the bguilty taketh the ctruth to be hard, for it dcutteth them to the very center.
3 And now my brethren, if ye were righteous and were willing to hearken to the truth, and give heed unto it, that ye might awalk uprightly before God, then ye would not murmur because of the truth, and say: Thou speakest hard things against us.
4 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did exhort my brethren, with all diligence, to keep the commandments of the Lord.
5 And it came to pass that they did ahumble themselves before the Lord; insomuch that I had joy and great hopes of them, that they would walk in the paths of righteousness.
6 Now, all these things were said and done as my father dwelt in a tent in the avalley which he called Lemuel.
7 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, took one of the adaughters of Ishmael to bwife; and also, my brethren took of the cdaughters of Ishmael to wife; and also dZoram took the eldest daughter of Ishmael to wife.
8 And thus my father had fulfilled all the acommandments of the Lord which had been given unto him. And also, I, Nephi, had been blessed of the Lord exceedingly.
9 And it came to passthat the voice of the Lord spake unto my father by night, and commanded him that on the morrow he should take his ajourney into the wilderness.
10 And it came to passthat as my father arose in the morning, and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round aball of curious workmanship; and it was of fine brass. And within the ball were two spindles; and the one bpointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness.
11 And it came to passthat we did gather together whatsoever things we should carry into the wilderness, and all the remainder of our provisions which the Lord had given unto us; and we did take aseed of every kind that we might carry into the wilderness.
12 And it came to pass that we did take our tents and depart into the wilderness, across the river Laman.
13 And it came to pass that we traveled for the space of four days, nearly a south-southeast direction, and we did pitch our tents again; and we did call the name of the place aShazer.
14 And it came to pass that we did take our bows and our arrows, and go forth into the wilderness to slay food for our families; and after we had slain food for our families we did return again to our families in the wilderness, to the place of Shazer. And we did go forth again in the wilderness, following the same direction, keeping in the most fertile parts of the wilderness, which were in the borders near the aRed Sea.
15 And it came to pass that we did travel for the space of many days, aslaying food by the way, with our bows and our arrows and our stones and our slings.
16 And we did follow the adirections of the ball, which led us in the more fertile parts of the wilderness.
17 And after we had traveled for the space of many days, we did pitch our tents for the space of a time, that we might again rest ourselves and obtain food for our families.
18 And it came to pass that as I, Nephi, went forth to slay food, behold, I did break my bow, which was made of fine asteel; and after I did break my bow, behold, my brethren were angry with me because of the loss of my bow, for we did obtain no food.
19 And it came to pass that we did return without food to our families, and being much fatigued, because of their journeying, they did suffer much for the want of food.
20 And it came to pass that Laman and Lemuel and the sons of Ishmael did begin to murmur exceedingly, because of their sufferings and afflictions in the wilderness; and also my father began to murmur against the Lord his God; yea, and they were all exceedingly sorrowful, even that they did amurmur against the Lord.
21 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, having been afflicted with my brethren because of the loss of my bow, and their bows having lost their asprings, it began to be exceedingly difficult, yea, insomuch that we could obtain no food.
22 And it came to pass I, Nephi, did speak much unto my brethren, because they had hardened their hearts again, even unto acomplaining against the Lord their God.
23 And it came to pass I, Nephi, did amake out of wood a bow, and out of a straight stick, an arrow; wherefore, I did arm myself with a bow and an arrow, with a sling and with stones. And I said unto my bfather: Whither shall I go to obtain food?
24 And it came to pass that he did ainquire of the Lord, for they had bhumbled themselves because of my words; for I did say many things unto them in the energy of my soul.
25 And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord came unto my father; and he was truly achastened because of his murmuring against the Lord, insomuch that he was brought down into the depths of sorrow.
26 And it came to pass that the voice of the Lord said unto him: Look upon the ball, and behold the things which are written.
27 And it came to pass that when my father beheld the things which were awritten upon the ball, he did fear and tremble exceedingly, and also my brethren and the sons of Ishmael and our wives.
28 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the ball, that they did work according to the afaith and diligence and heed which we did give unto them.
29 And there was also written upon them a new writing, which was plain to be read, which did give us aunderstanding concerning the ways of the Lord; and it was written and changed from time to time, according to the faith and diligence which we gave unto it. And thus we see that by bsmall means the Lord can bring about great things.
30 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did go forth up into the top of the mountain, according to the adirections which were given upon the ball.
31 And it came to pass that I did slay wild abeasts, insomuch that I did obtain food for our families.
32 And it came to pass that I did return to our tents, bearing the beasts which I had slain; and now when they beheld that I had obtained afood, how great was their joy! And it came to pass that they did humble themselves before the Lord, and did give thanks unto him.
33 And it came to pass that we did again take our journey, traveling nearly the same course as in the beginning; and after we had traveled for the space of many days we did pitch our tents again, that we might tarry for the space of a time.
34 And it came to pass that aIshmael died, and was buried in the place which was called bNahom.
35 And it came to pass that the daughters of Ishmael did amourn exceedingly, because of the loss of their father, and because of their bafflictions in the wilderness; and they did cmurmur against my father, because he had brought them out of the land of Jerusalem, saying: Our father is dead; yea, and we have wandered much in the wilderness, and we have suffered much affliction, hunger, thirst, and fatigue; and after all these sufferings we must perish in the wilderness with hunger.
36 And thus they did murmur against my father, and also against me; and they were desirous to areturn again to Jerusalem.
37 And Laman said unto Lemuel and also unto the sons of Ishmael: Behold, let us aslay our father, and also our brother Nephi, who has taken it upon him to be our bruler and our teacher, who are his elder brethren.
38 Now, he says that the Lord has talked with him, and also that aangels have ministered unto him. But behold, we know that he lies unto us; and he tells us these things, and he worketh many things by his cunning arts, that he may deceive our eyes, thinking, perhaps, that he may lead us away into some strange wilderness; and after he has led us away, he has thought to make himself a king and a ruler over us, that he may do with us according to his will and pleasure. And after this manner did my brother Laman bstir up their hearts to canger.
39 And it came to pass that the Lord was with us, yea, even the voice of the Lord came and did speak many words unto them, and did achasten them exceedingly; and after they were chastened by the voice of the Lord they did turn away their anger, and did repent of their sins, insomuch that the Lord did bless us again with food, that we did not perish.
 

63 posted on 02/23/2023 4:00:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Big Red Badger

Angels are strong, but not too smart.


64 posted on 02/23/2023 4:01:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RightSpirit; wita
The unum and thummin are long gone.

(Spelling)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urim_and_Thummim_(Latter_Day_Saints)

65 posted on 02/23/2023 4:03:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro
Waving this : ✝️



66 posted on 02/23/2023 4:05:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I’d suggest were it required for translation it could easily be obtained.

Since the confused Christian world doesn’t believe in heavenly translations, what purpose would it have??


67 posted on 02/23/2023 9:23:19 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: cowboyusa

“Whoever created this has commented the unpardonable sin.”

The only unpardonable sin is dying without accepting Lord Jesus Christ as Savior, Romans 10:9-10 & Luke 23:43.


68 posted on 02/23/2023 8:10:14 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: mrobisr

Matthew 12.


69 posted on 02/23/2023 8:13:06 PM PST by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: wita

“heavenly translations,”

Wow I didn’t know this, please share. GOD works through the agency of man, so please enlighten me of this heavenly translation.


70 posted on 02/23/2023 8:13:35 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: wita
I’d suggest were it required for translation it could easily be obtained.

Last I read, a HAT was definitely needed!

71 posted on 02/23/2023 8:40:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And their Fates are sealed so they
‘Abandond Hope All who Enter Hell.”


72 posted on 02/24/2023 10:03:10 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Elsie

I wasn’t there but we have the translation which should be sufficient upon which to base a belief.


73 posted on 02/24/2023 11:02:49 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: mrobisr

“GOD works through the agency of man”

In this discussion I would say the Holy Bible is itself a form of heavenly translation, and yet is most certainly the cause of much disagreement and confusion within the Christian world.

That confusion would not be the fault of a merciful God, but man’s agency. The ability to choose so that we are individually responsible for thoughts words and deeds in this life.


74 posted on 02/24/2023 1:21:17 PM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: wita
I wasn’t there but we have the translation which should be sufficient upon which to base a belief.

It appears that you have a MUCH stronger faith than I do.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

75 posted on 02/24/2023 6:29:42 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
One can talk about the source and translation of the BoM all day; but that does not negate the fact that most Mormon doctrine comes from the D&C's: words NOT written in Reformed Egyptian, or Egyptian hieroglyphics, but English from the mouth of the Prophet.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_and_Covenants

76 posted on 02/24/2023 6:34:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; wita
Acts 19:1-3
 
1 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the interior and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you became believers?”
 
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
 
3 “Into what, then, were you baptized?” Paul asked.
 
“The baptism of John,” they replied.…
 

 
While Elsie was at home one day, there came a knocking upon his door.
 
Opening it, he found 2 elders who simultaneously told him, "Hi.  We would like to help you learn more about who GOD and Jesus Christ are."
 
“Will you be using the LDS 'Inspired Version' of the bible?”, Elsie questioned.
 
“No,” they answered, “we have not even heard that there is a 'Inspired Version' !”
 
"You mean it is NOT found in your Quad?", Elsie asked.
 
 "No", they replied; in stereo.
 
"Strange", said Elsie, "considering ALL the work Joseph Smith put into obeying the COMMAND of GOD.  Especially in light of the Articles of Faith casting doubt on the accuracy of the KJ version; too."

77 posted on 02/24/2023 6:42:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If you are a Bible believing Christian, that is the biggest load of horse manure I’ve heard today.

I don’t believe you will find a scriptural reference for your comment.

Lots of extraordinary claims in the Bible, Eternal life, resurrection of the dead, Baptism for the remission of sins, the laying on of hands for healing of the sick, casting out of devils, baptism of fire, the birth of a savior, the flood, the exodus, the walls of Jericho, Elijah and the priests of Baal, all of that and more by faith.

No extraordinary evidence, unless one is really looking. The evidence comes “after the trial of faith”.


78 posted on 02/25/2023 7:12:17 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: wita
The evidence comes “after the trial of faith”.

Is this found in the D&Cs or the Pearl of Great Price?

79 posted on 02/25/2023 5:52:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
If you are a Bible believing Christian, that is the biggest load of horse manure I’ve heard today.

And if a person believes what is written in the D&Cs, what kind of fecal material would aptly describe it?


 

The

Doctrine and Covenants

Section 76  

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76

A vision given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, February 16, 1832. Prefacing the record of this vision, Joseph Smith’s history states: “Upon my return from Amherst conference, I resumed the translation of the Scriptures. From sundry revelations which had been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled. It appeared self-evident from what truths were left, that if God rewarded every one according to the deeds done in the body the term ‘Heaven,’ as intended for the Saints’ eternal home, must include more kingdoms than one. Accordingly, … while translating St. John’s Gospel, myself and Elder Rigdon saw the following vision.” At the time this vision was given, the Prophet was translating John 5:29.

1–4, The Lord is God;

5–10, The mysteries of the kingdom will be revealed to all the faithful;

11–17, All will come forth in the resurrection of the just or the unjust;

18–24, The inhabitants of many worlds are begotten sons and daughters unto God through the Atonement of Jesus Christ;

25–29, An angel of God fell and became the devil;

30–49, Sons of perdition suffer eternal damnation; all others gain some degree of salvation;

50–70, The glory and reward of exalted beings in the celestial kingdom is described;

71–80, Those who will inherit the terrestrial kingdom are described;

81–113, The status of those in the telestial, terrestrial, and celestial glories is explained;

114–119, The faithful may see and understand the mysteries of God’s kingdom by the power of the Holy Spirit.

 1 Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, and rejoice ye inhabitants thereof, for the Lord is God, and beside him there is no Savio
 2 Great is his wisdom, marvelous are his ways, and the extent of his doings none can find out.
 3 His purposes fail not, neither are there any who can stay his hand.
 4 From eternity to eternity he is the same, and his years never fail.
 5 For thus saith the Lord—I, the Lord, am merciful and gracious unto those who fear me, and delight to honor those who serve me in righteousness and in truth unto the end.
 6 Great shall be their reward and eternal shall be their glory.
 7 And to them will I reveal all mysteries, yea, all the hidden mysteries of my kingdom from days of old, and for ages to come, will I make known unto them the good pleasure of my will concerning all things pertaining to my kingdom.
 8 Yea, even the wonders of eternity shall they know, and things to come will I show them, even the things of many generations.
 9 And their wisdom shall be great, and their understanding reach to heaven; and before them the wisdom of the wise shall perish, and the understanding of the prudent shall come to naught.
 10 For by my Spirit will I enlighten them, and by my power will I make known unto them the secrets of my will—yea, even those things which eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor yet entered into the heart of man.
 11 We, Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, being in the Spirit on the sixteenth day of February, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two—
 12 By the power of the Spirit our eyes were opened and our understandings were enlightened, so as to see and understand the things of God—
 13 Even those things which were from the beginning before the world was, which were ordained of the Father, through his Only Begotten Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, even from the beginning;
 14 Of whom we bear record; and the record which we bear is the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, who is the Son, whom we saw and with whom we conversed in the heavenly vision.
 15 For while we were doing the work of translation, which the Lord had appointed unto us, we came to the twenty-ninth verse of the fifth chapter of John, which was given unto us as follows—
 16 Speaking of the resurrection of the dead, concerning those who shall hear the voice of the Son of Man:
 17 And shall come forth; they who have done good, in the resurrection of the just; and they who have done evil, in the resurrection of the unjust.
 18 Now this caused us to marvel, for it was given unto us of the Spirit.
 19 And while we meditated upon these things, the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened, and the glory of the Lord shone round about.
 20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the right hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;
 21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.
 22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!
 23 For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—
 24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.
 25 And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,
 26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning.
 27 And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning!
 28 And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ—
 29 Wherefore, he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasseth them round about.
 30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:
 31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—
 32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;
 33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;
 34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—
 35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.
 36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—
 37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;
 38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.
 39 For all the rest shall be brought forth by the resurrection of the dead, through the triumph and the glory of the Lamb, who was slain, who was in the bosom of the Father before the worlds were made.
 40 And this is the gospel, the glad tidings, which the voice out of the heavens bore record unto us—
 41 That he came into the world, even Jesus, to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness;
 42 That through him all might be saved whom the Father had put into his power and made by him;
 43 Who glorifies the Father, and saves all the works of his hands, except those sons of perdition who deny the Son after the Father has revealed him.
 44 Wherefore, he saves all except them—they shall go away into everlasting punishment, which is endless punishment, which is eternal punishment, to reign with the devil and his angels in eternity, where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched, which is their torment—
 45 And the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows;
 46 Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;
 47 Nevertheless, I, the Lord, show it by vision unto many, but straightway shut it up again;
 48 Wherefore, the end, the width, the height, the depth, and the misery thereof, they understand not, neither any man except those who are ordained unto this condemnation.
 49 And we heard the voice, saying: Write the vision, for lo, this is the end of the vision of the sufferings of the ungodly.
 50 And again we bear record—for we saw and heard, and this is the testimony of the gospel of Christ concerning them who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just—
 51 They are they who received the testimony of Jesus, and believed on his name and were baptized after the manner of his burial, being buried in the water in his name, and this according to the commandment which he has given—
 52 That by keeping the commandments they might be washed and cleansed from all their sins, and receive the Holy Spirit by the laying on of the hands of him who is ordained and sealed unto this power;
 53 And who overcome by faith, and are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, which the Father sheds forth upon all those who are just and true.
 54 They are they who are the church of the Firstborn.
 55 They are they into whose hands the Father has given all things—
 56 They are they who are priests and kings, who have received of his fulness, and of his glory;
 57 And are priests of the Most High, after the order of Melchizedek, which was after the order of Enoch, which was after the order of the Only Begotten Son.
 58 Wherefore, as it is written, they are gods, even the sons of God—
 59 Wherefore, all things are theirs, whether life or death, or things present, or things to come, all are theirs and they are Christ’s, and Christ is God’s.
 60 And they shall overcome all things.
 61 Wherefore, let no man glory in man, but rather let him glory in God, who shall subdue all enemies under his feet.
 62 These shall dwell in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.
 63 These are they whom he shall bring with him, when he shall come in the clouds of heaven to reign on the earth over his people.
 64 These are they who shall have part in the first resurrection.
 65 These are they who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just.
 66 These are they who are come unto Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly place, the holiest of all.
 67 These are they who have come to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of Enoch, and of the Firstborn.
 68 These are they whose names are written in heaven, where God and Christ are the judge of all.
 69 These are they who are just men made perfect through Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of his own blood.
 70 These are they whose bodies are celestial, whose glory is that of the sun, even the glory of God, the highest of all, whose glory the sun of the firmament is written of as being typical.
 71 And again, we saw the terrestrial world, and behold and lo, these are they who are of the terrestrial, whose glory differs from that of the church of the Firstborn who have received the fulness of the Father, even as that of the moon differs from the sun in the firmament.
 72 Behold, these are they who died without law;
 73 And also they who are the spirits of men kept in prison, whom the Son visited, and preached the gospel unto them, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh;
 74 Who received not the testimony of Jesus in the flesh, but afterwards received it.
 75 These are they who are honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men.
 76 These are they who receive of his glory, but not of his fulness.
 77 These are they who receive of the presence of the Son, but not of the fulness of the Father.
 78 Wherefore, they are bodies terrestrial, and not bodies celestial, and differ in glory as the moon differs from the sun.
 79 These are they who are not valiant in the testimony of Jesus; wherefore, they obtain not the crown over the kingdom of our God.
 80 And now this is the end of the vision which we saw of the terrestrial, that the Lord commanded us to write while we were yet in the Spirit.
 81 And again, we saw the glory of the telestial, which glory is that of the lesser, even as the glory of the stars differs from that of the glory of the moon in the firmament.
 82 These are they who received not the gospel of Christ, neither the testimony of Jesus.
 83 These are they who deny not the Holy Spirit.
 84 These are they who are thrust down to hell.
 85 These are they who shall not be redeemed from the devil until the last resurrection, until the Lord, even Christ the Lamb, shall have finished his work.
 86 These are they who receive not of his fulness in the eternal world, but of the Holy Spirit through the ministration of the terrestrial;
 87 And the terrestrial through the ministration of the celestial.
 88 And also the telestial receive it of the administering of angels who are appointed to minister for them, or who are appointed to be ministering spirits for them; for they shall be heirs of salvation.
 89 And thus we saw, in the heavenly vision, the glory of the telestial, which surpasses all understanding;
 90 And no man knows it except him to whom God has revealed it.
 91 And thus we saw the glory of the terrestrial which excels in all things the glory of the telestial, even in glory, and in power, and in might, and in dominion.
 92 And thus we saw the glory of the celestial, which excels in all things—where God, even the Father, reigns upon his throne forever and ever;
 93 Before whose throne all things bow in humble reverence, and give him glory forever and ever.
 94 They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace;
 95 And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion.
 96 And the glory of the celestial is one, even as the glory of the sun is one.
 97 And the glory of the terrestrial is one, even as the glory of the moon is one.
 98 And the glory of the telestial is one, even as the glory of the stars is one; for as one star differs from another star in glory, even so differs one from another in glory in the telestial world;
 99 For these are they who are of Paul, and of Apollos, and of Cephas.
100 These are they who say they are some of one and some of another—some of Christ and some of John, and some of Moses, and some of Elias, and some of Esaias, and some of Isaiah, and some of Enoch;
101 But received not the gospel, neither the testimony of Jesus, neither the prophets, neither the everlasting covenant.
102 Last of all, these all are they who will not be gathered with the saints, to be caught up unto the church of the Firstborn, and received into the cloud.
103 These are they who are liars, and sorcerers, and adulterers, and whoremongers, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.
104 These are they who suffer the wrath of God on earth.
105 These are they who suffer the vengeance of eternal fire.
106 These are they who are cast down to hell and suffer the wrath of Almighty God, until the fulness of times, when Christ shall have subdued all enemies under his feet, and shall have perfected his work;
107 When he shall deliver up the kingdom, and present it unto the Father, spotless, saying: I have overcome and have trodden the wine-press alone, even the wine-press of the fierceness of the wrath of Almighty God.
108 Then shall he be crowned with the crown of his glory, to sit on the throne of his power to reign forever and ever.
109 But behold, and lo, we saw the glory and the inhabitants of the telestial world, that they were as innumerable as the stars in the firmament of heaven, or as the sand upon the seashore;
110 And heard the voice of the Lord saying: These all shall bow the knee, and every tongue shall confess to him who sits upon the throne forever and ever;
111 For they shall be judged according to their works, and every man shall receive according to his own works, his own dominion, in the mansions which are prepared;
112 And they shall be servants of the Most High; but where God and Christ dwell they cannot come, worlds without end.
113 This is the end of the vision which we saw, which we were commanded to write while we were yet in the Spirit.
114 But great and marvelous are the works of the Lord, and the mysteries of his kingdom which he showed unto us, which surpass all understanding in glory, and in might, and in dominion;
115 Which he commanded us we should not write while we were yet in the Spirit, and are not lawful for man to utter;
116 Neither is man capable to make them known, for they are only to be seen and understood by the power of the Holy Spirit, which God bestows on those who love him, and purify themselves before him;
117 To whom he grants this privilege of seeing and knowing for themselves;
118 That through the power and manifestation of the Spirit, while in the flesh, they may be able to bear his presence in the world of glory.
119 And to God and the Lamb be glory, and honor, and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

 

https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-student-manual/section-69-80/section-76-the-vision-of-the-degrees-of-glory?lang=eng

 


 


80 posted on 02/25/2023 6:01:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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