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Pope Francis decries German Synodal Way as ‘neither helpful nor serious’
Catholic News Agency ^ | 01.25.23 | AC Wimmer

Posted on 01/26/2023 7:47:30 PM PST by MurphsLaw

CNA Newsroom, Jan 25, 2023

In an interview published Wednesday, Pope Francis decried the German Synodal Way as elitist, unhelpful, and running the risk of bringing ideological harm to Church processes.

“The German experience does not help,” the pontiff told Associated Press when asked about the controversial process, explaining that dialogue should involve “all the people of God.”

The 86-year-old pontiff contrasted the German event, which is not a synod, with the universal Church’s recently extended Synod on Synodality.

Francis said on Tuesday that the global synod’s aim was to “help this more elitist (German) path so that it does not end badly in some way, but so is also integrated into the Church.”

While Pope Francis did not delve into details of the demands made in Germany, he plainly described the Synodal Way as perilous.

“Here the danger is that something very, very ideological trickles in. When ideology gets involved in church processes, the Holy Spirit goes home, because ideology overcomes the Holy Spirit,” he said in the wide-ranging interview that also included remarks about the Church’s stance on homosexuality, the loss of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI — and his health.

Since its launch by Cardinal Reinhard Marx in 2019, the German Synodal Way has courted controversy.

Participants have voted in favor of draft documents calling for the priestly ordination of women, same-sex blessings, and changes to Church teaching on homosexual acts, prompting accusations of heresy and fears of schism.

Concerns have been publicly raised by Church leaders from Poland, the Nordic countries, and around the world.

Fears of a “dirty schism” from Germany have increased over the past few months, as organizers of the Synodal Way in November refused a moratorium on the process suggested by the Vatican.

In his interview published Wednesday, Pope Francis insisted: “Always try to unite.”

Just two days earlier, on Monday, the latest Vatican intervention against the Synodal Way revealed that even participants in the process are anything but united: Five German bishops, it was reported, had asked Rome to clarify concerns over a synodal council.

Participants of the German Synodal Way in September 2022 voted to create such a controlling body that would permanently oversee the Church in Germany.

The Vatican stated in a letter published Jan. 23 that the Germans are not authorized to install a permanent synodal council to oversee the Church in Germany. The missive was formally approved by Pope Francis.

Despite all these interventions, the Synodal Way — “Synodaler Weg” in German, sometimes translated as the Synodal Path — is currently still expected to continue as planned by its organizers. The next (and so far final) synodal assembly is scheduled to take place in Frankfurt in March.


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1 posted on 01/26/2023 7:47:30 PM PST by MurphsLaw
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To: MurphsLaw

‘Pope Francis insisted: “Always try to unite.”’

Bergoglio doesn’t practice what he preaches. Instead of trying to keep traditionalists in the fold, he’s hellbent on trying to drive us off.


2 posted on 01/26/2023 7:51:39 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler
I think the operative,
and subjective, word there is
"Try"...
3 posted on 01/26/2023 7:54:24 PM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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To: MurphsLaw

Watch what he does, not what he says. He’s delighted.


4 posted on 01/26/2023 8:04:37 PM PST by Romulus
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To: MurphsLaw

If Francis is against it, I probably should be for it.


5 posted on 01/26/2023 8:14:04 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DM)
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To: MurphsLaw
Who called for these evil Sin-Nods in the first place?

Who claims the Holy Ghost is speaking through these evil Sin-Nods?

And who has encouraged Batzing?

Francis Stokes Up German Bishops’ Rebellion

Pay no mind to the crocodile tears, Murph.

6 posted on 01/26/2023 8:28:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: MurphsLaw
Francis Equivocates on Celeb Jesuit Predator
7 posted on 01/26/2023 8:43:30 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: MurphsLaw

So am I to understand the GERMAN thing is promoting homos and women priests?

Writing wasn’t really good and clear on what is what.

If so, I’d have to agree with Francis.


8 posted on 01/26/2023 8:47:26 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DM)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The Germans’ Sin-Nod is no different than Bergoglio’s Sin-Nod.

The Germans are just not as sneaky as Jorge.


9 posted on 01/26/2023 8:50:41 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The German bishops make Francis look like Rush Limbaugh. He’s not always as leftwing as the headlines make him out to be.


10 posted on 01/26/2023 9:09:53 PM PST by jarwulf
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To: jarwulf

Too Late.


11 posted on 01/26/2023 9:18:00 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: MurphsLaw
Pope Francis decries German Synodal Way as ‘neither helpful nor serious’

Catholics decry Bergoglio's Synodal Way as 'both evil and dangerous'.

And no different than the Germans'.

12 posted on 01/26/2023 9:23:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: MurphsLaw

On this site we have many hundreds of discussions about the present Pope and his actions in our Catholic Church. The answer is quite simple. The Pope is philosophically a Marxist by decrees and deeds as prior a left wing cardinal in Argentina and today The Pope. I myself suspect if he is even a Christian by faith.

Today I attend church in a small traditional Baptist Church as my “Church of Rome” is no more. I would most like to return to The Church of Rome, it left me I did not leave it.


13 posted on 01/26/2023 10:41:50 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: MurphsLaw

They are now saying in Germany on the katholisch.de website, “The Pope’s criticism of the development of the Synodal Way was unmistakable in the interview. But it was clearly more differentiated and ready for dialogue than the headline “neither helpful nor serious” suggested.”

They would say that


14 posted on 01/27/2023 12:55:01 AM PST by Gillibrand1 (Synod)
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To: ebb tide
I like to take in any optimism where I can find it.

Aren't we Easter People supposed to be more optimistic- than pessimistic?
Peace and Joy?


15 posted on 01/27/2023 4:39:49 AM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Ran across this article by accident.
Didn't see it mentioned in another FRatholic posting... so I was moved to share it...

The little voice in my head said to me...

"So you're telling me, there's a chance..."

(Or it was just Jim Carrey's voice I heard...)


16 posted on 01/27/2023 4:46:42 AM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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To: MurphsLaw

It’s certain been a “trying” pontificate….


17 posted on 01/27/2023 7:46:07 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy
To say the least !

18 posted on 01/27/2023 8:45:04 AM PST by MurphsLaw ( "If you do boast, remember it is not you that support the root, but the root that supports you.")
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