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Protestantism: Francis Effect in Latin America
Gloria TV ^ | December 24, 2022 | Gloria TV

Posted on 12/26/2022 11:06:13 AM PST by ebb tide

Protestantism: Francis Effect in Latin America

The Vatican is losing the world's largest Catholic country, and Marxist-sexualist liberation theology is no more successful than Marxist-political liberation theology, writes CatholicHerald.co.uk (December 12)

• At the current rate, Catholics will make up less than 50% of all Brazilians by July 2023.

• Nearly one in five Latin Americans now describe themselves as Protestant Pentecostals.

• Until the failed Vatican II, at least 90% of Latin America was Catholic.

• One reason for this fiasco is "liberation theology", which put politics above religion.

• Most Catholics left the secularised Council Church because they were looking for religion, not for politics.

• The Vatican II Church is currently repeating the mistake of Marxist-political liberation theology with Marxist-sexualist liberation theology.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: frankenchurch; vcii
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1 posted on 12/26/2022 11:06:13 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

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2 posted on 12/26/2022 11:06:51 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

To the degree that any of these Brazilians come to saving faith in Christ, I’m all for it.


3 posted on 12/26/2022 11:31:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ebb tide

It will also allow Islam to make inroads.


4 posted on 12/26/2022 11:34:47 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ebb tide

Nice article, but what an amateurish cartoon, making its point with such heavy-handedness.


5 posted on 12/26/2022 11:47:53 AM PST by nwrep
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Shouldn’t the Vatican own up to this failure and engage in some retrospection?


6 posted on 12/26/2022 11:48:45 AM PST by nwrep
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To: ebb tide

As a Protestant Pentecostal, I say “Welcome” to my new brothers and sisters in Christ.


7 posted on 12/26/2022 12:01:55 PM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: nwrep

**but what an amateurish cartoon,**

The woman is obviously portrayed wearing yoga pants, or something similar. As my wife (who before turning God when he called her out of darkness) has said, Adam and Eve sinned, and saw that they were naked. Today’s self awareness seems to be rare, as modesty is all but gone in both secular society and religious communities.

(We realize the mooslimbs take modesty of the woman to forced extremes.)


8 posted on 12/26/2022 12:05:33 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: nwrep

Gosh, I don’t tell the Vatican what to do.

They didn’t listen to Blessed Saint Martin Luther, so I doubt they will listen to anyone now.

I just rejoice when people come to saving faith in Christ.


9 posted on 12/26/2022 12:07:43 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ebb tide

God works in mysterious ways.


10 posted on 12/26/2022 12:18:23 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: ebb tide

Stop linking that evil Frank to Protestants! Catholicker all the way!


11 posted on 12/26/2022 1:15:40 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: bimboeruption

Were they not already your brothers and sisters as Catholics?


12 posted on 12/26/2022 1:27:19 PM PST by Romulus
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t Vatican II grand:


13 posted on 12/26/2022 1:45:34 PM PST by chopperk
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To: SgtHooper
Stop linking that evil Frank to Protestants!

Sorry. That's impossible.


14 posted on 12/26/2022 3:19:39 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This whole “Vatican II has led to the decline of the Roman Catholic Church” is a good example of the post hoc fallacy.

And it’s quite a smear to blame it on Protestantism and to say the Vatican II Church is “Protestant.”

Just looking at the situation, in very general and broadbrush terms, for a pre-Modern society which would be governed by Christianity, you can see how the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches, with all of their faults, would be used by God. Generally speaking, whole societies adopted a Christian culture, and the Catholic Church more or less enforced godly Christian living, and having those moral codes enforced by the state forced many people to be virtuous and to recognize and embrace the virtues of Christianity. Being acquainted today with many low-income people, and seeing how the godless culture of today has ravaged the lower class in so many respects, I can appreciate that. They essentially need pretty strong cultural and moral guardians and leaders, and they largely embrace whatever is offered to them culturally. The middle class pretty much does too, but not to the same extent.

And it was in part the slow development of modern society and the more learned middle classes that brought about the Protestant Reformation and the loss of a lot of the social power of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church proudly says it “helped” bring about those changes, including by increasing the amount of education available. Perhaps from a surplus of funds and priests who took an interest in worldly knowledge, probably some for good and some for ill.

Again, speaking very generally, as society has “modernized” technologically and more people have become literate and educated, it’s brought with it a whole host of changes. While Catholics most dedicated to their church tend to think that the Protestant Reformation weakened Christianity, they don’t see how, under the modernizing that has been part of God’s plan, more people have come to the Lord intimately through His Word. And that has not led to every person being their own Pope or “30,000 Protestant churches” (which a Catholic writer admitted is a bad statistic from a hostile secular source). The hyper individualism of the churches comes mostly from the modern age, which, again the Catholic Church helped bring in. Between more education (first literacy, then libraries and mass education, then mass media and now the computer age) plus all sorts of “modern” technology which is making the world more and more like Babylon and bringing people worldwide together on a Tower of Babel.

And all in all, in the wealthier nations, it has been ordinary Protestants with intimate knowledge of God’s Word who have been most equipped to stand against and expose how modern society is heightening man’s rebellion against God and trying to establish a godless earth, if that were possible. And that doesn’t mean that Protestants and Protestant churches haven’t been and still aren’t very imperfect in many ways. Just that God has been able to use them and work through them because His Word has been so established there.


15 posted on 12/26/2022 3:26:59 PM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: Romulus

Not if they were the same type of catholic as the pope.


16 posted on 12/26/2022 3:55:54 PM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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To: Faith Presses On
...they don’t see how, under the modernizing that has been part of God’s plan, ...

Who say's "modernizing" was part of God's plan better than VC II and the six Protestant "observers" at that travesty?

17 posted on 12/26/2022 4:14:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: bimboeruption

On what authority does this opinion rest?


18 posted on 12/26/2022 4:42:02 PM PST by Romulus
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Why would we listen to someone repeatedly screaming “IT BURNS! IT BURNS!”?


19 posted on 12/26/2022 5:13:27 PM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: Texas_Guy

The fakir with fake stigma made that claim… so totally false.


20 posted on 12/26/2022 5:43:42 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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