Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
——>According to the Essenes, it’s the “plucking up” and that sounds just too good to not use.
Second coming of Christ. You PTRB’s are so gullible/twitching ears.
I often think that OSAS/OJAJ/PTRB’s have to be some of the dumbest people I have ever run across, or gullible, or straight up won over by Satan (the father of lies). Probably a combination of all three. Their hatred of God’s law, the SDA church, and EGW is also quite evident. Take for example statements like this and similar, from SDA/EGW hate sites and haters (amazing idiocy), who will say and believe ANYTHING rather than the truth, accusing EGW of “fanatic” behavior actually performed by their own early Pentecostal, false PTR doctrine-believing cousins (some possibly inbred, from states like TN, etc…):
Ellen White and her congregants got on all fours, barked liked dogs, and the men head-butted the women…
Picture below: a typical SDA meeting attended by Ellen G. White characterized by the ‘holy’ salutation kiss, loud shouting and singing, physical prostrations, promiscuous (mixed) footwashing, multiple baptisms by immersion, odd exhibitions of voluntary humility (i.e. crawling, barking), and the presentations of a few (mostly female) visionaries.
“They seldom sit in any other position than on the bare floor....A women, at the meeting he attended, got on her hands and knees, and crept over the floor like a child. A man, in the same position, followed her, butting her occasionally with his head. Another man threw himself at full length upon his back on the bed, and presently three women crossed him with their bodies.” (source: Norway Advertiser, 28 March 1845.)
Phil: The EGW false accusations come about from the TRIAL of Israel Damman, a preacher who invited EGW to a home where he was leading a meeting, where these “fanaticisms” occurred, and then a description described in trial testimony and newspapers.
ANOTHER LOOK AT ISRAEL DAMMAN
by James R. Nix
https://media2.whiteestate.org/legacy/issues/pdf/israel_damman.pdf
Phil: EGW was never a participant in any of these activities. She was ONLY there to witness as God instructed her to do. And, this was not the only time she had encountered these “fanatics”. And, she specifically and categorically REBUKED this behavior. Not a chance would she have ever participated in it. “I bore my testimony in the name of the Lord, placing His rebuke upon these manifestations” (Selected Messages, book 2, p. 34).
“In the period of disappointment after the passing of the time in 1844, fanaticism in various forms arose. Some held that the resurrection of the righteous dead had already taken place. I was sent to bear a message to those believing this, as I am now bearing a message to you [certain persons advocating strange doctrines in 1901]. They declared that they were perfected, that body, soul, and spirit were holy. They made demonstrations similar to those you have made, and confused their own minds and the minds of others by their wonderful suppositions. Yet these persons were our beloved brethren, and we were longing to help them. I went into their meetings. There was much excitement, with noise and confusion. One could not tell what was piped or what was harped. Some appeared to be in vision, and fell to the floor. Others were jumping, dancing, and shouting. They declared that as their flesh was purified, they were ready for translation. This they repeated again and again. I bore my testimony in the name of the Lord, placing His rebuke upon these manifestations” (Selected Messages, book 2, p. 34).
“The question naturally arises why Ellen and James would even be meeting with, and attempting to minister to, people with such strange, fanatical views. The fact is that these were the only ones among the former Millerites who still placed any validity in the October 22, 1844, date.59 Additionally, it would be sometime later in 1845 before God actually sent Ellen to a place to oppose fanaticism.60”
“60 Although Ellen White specifically recalled having to deal with a few fanatics in Exeter, Maine, in early February, 1845 [see Spiritual Gifts, 1860, 2:39, 40], and again a short time later with a small group of fanatics in Claremont, New Hampshire [Ibid., 46-48], it appears that it was in Springfield, New Hampshire, that she was given the first vision specifically instructing her regarding the reproach that fanaticism was having on the cause of God, and that she should return to Maine to bear her testimony against it [see Ellen G. White, unpublished Life Sketches Manuscript, 126, 127].”
https://media2.whiteestate.org/legacy/issues/pdf/israel_damman.pdf
https://whiteestate.org/about/issues1/about-egw/life-and-ministry/israel-dammon/
https://ellenwhite.org/faq/152
“Ellen Harmon’s association with Israel Dammon at this time may also be understood in light of the fact that while most Millerites had rejected their past experience, he was among a handful of leaders who still believed that Bible prophecy had been fulfilled in 1844—one of the few who would listen to the message of Ellen Harmon’s first vision.”
The truth is, Claire, that your distant PTR-B Pentecostal relatives are the barkers and crawlers. Not such a large leap from what your people believe today. Accusing EGW of “fanaticism” is nothing short of bearing false witness, reading from her own testimony that she never participated in any of it, and categorically REBUKED it. Anyone could do the research, but they won’t. They have been won over by Satan. That is why most PTR/OSAS/OJAJ will not be in heaven, at least the ones alive at the end of the world, that will willingly take the Mark of the Beast (what happens to those who die before, as far as judgment, is up to God...as haters and breakers of His Holy law, including the 7th-day-Sabbath). ” because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them”.
2 Thess 2:
9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.
Claire, is reasoning on the Sabbath, breaking the Sabbath?
——>He doesn’t acknowledge the Fig tree.
07. Secret Rapture a False Teaching.|| Sermon By Pastor Stephen Bohr
The last half of this video specifically addresses “the fig tree” Matthew 24:32,33, reestablishment of the state of Israel, Matthew 3:9,10, Luke 13:1-9, Mark 11:19,20, Luke 21:29,30, Matthew 21:12,13 (My house), Matthew 23:38 (your house is left unto you desolate...Jesus left the temple because Israel rejected Him), the 70 weeks of Daniel...(the door of probation still open for the Jews for 3.5 more years after the death of Christ), literal Israel, the stoning of Stephen (ending point of the 70 weeks), etc... starts at 29:35. Of course, the other false teachings are discussed from the beginning to this point.
Quite the contrast from the false teachers seen on Prophecy Watchers.
Seven_0, I specifically included you because of statements/questions posed on the stoning of Stephen
Not going to waste anymore time convincing you, a cultists, that you and your cult are wrong.
Now, go do something productive on the sabbath!
“I often think that OSAS/OJAJ/PTRB’s have to be some of the dumbest people I have ever run across ...”
And yet, you put your eternal soul’s trust in a woman who claims to have met extremely tall, sinless people on ... Jupiter.
SYCMU
No, I put my eternal soul’s trust in Jesus Christ and His Holy word, the bible. PTR-Believers hate God’s law, His Sabbath, and EGW. I just showed them that their story of EGW “barking and crawling”, among other things, is a complete lie, as is their belief in OSAS/OJAJ, PTR (of course), and their false teachers, many of whom show up on Prophecy Watcher’s to sell their garbage.
PTRB either know they are lying about EGW, or they’re too dumb to know any different (won’t research it for themselves...believe their false teachers), and just go along with it to fit in with their fake Christian friends. Sort of like how it’s going to be when they voluntarily accept the MOTB, wouldn’t you say?
Did EGW claim to visit a planet with tall, sinless people or not?
And do YOU believe that happened?
Does Christ call His angels saints? Yes or no. Why would you be terrified to answer that simple question?
See, Phil, I don’t think I’d be accusing others of being “dumb, gullible.” etc., etc., if I believed my religious organization’s leader claimed to have visited another planet. IIRC, it was Jupiter, yeah? Having very tall, sinless people. (Can’t help but wonder if they had oysters there. Do you know?)
Amazing, but it does explain your anger at yourself (understandable), and others, which is not understandable since they aren’t the ones who claimed it.
Heck, embrace who and what you are, Phil.
JMSYCMU
PTRB avoid that question like the plague, because they know that once they admit the answer is yes (and it is yes), the PTR goose is cooked.
The PTR goose is cooked.
That’s right: avoid the question at hand. I expected no more from you.
Why does the PTR clan have to lie about EGW barking and crawling? They can’t research the truth for themselves? Do they hate the SDA’s and EGW so much that they can’t tell the truth?
Jupiter. LOL.
Have you ever been to another planet like your leader, EGW?
For all I know it could be that all members get to visit another planet. Cool fer ya.
Like the one you’ve been avoiding? The one about Angels being called saints? And those saints returning with Christ at the second coming, minus PTR humans?
Keep avoiding the matter of EGW’s skirt blowing in the breeze as she flies to Jupiter.
Is it true or is it that her followers are dumb and gullible?
Why can’t PTRB tell the truth about EGW barking and crawling? Why can’t they do their own research? Why do they just take the word of their lying teachers? Why do your people keep saying Christians can’t sin?
As a member of the PTRB clan, are you willing to say that the PTRB clan lie of EGW barking and crawling was in fact, a lie?
I don’t blame you, Phil. Honestly, I would have to run and hide myself from the world if I had called others dumb and gullible, while I believed that the beloved leader of the cult SDA went to Jupiter and met some really tall folk who were sinless.
I just can’t understand why a Christian group like the PTRB association can’t just tell the truth about a known lie that they are perpetrating. Why won’t anyone from that group just tell the truth? Do you have an answer, Claire?
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