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To: DJ MacWoW

or alternatively, he could have rebuked the serpent for misquoting God. God did not say they could not “touch” the tree lest they would die... he said do NOT eat because it will kill you.

women were created a “weaker vessel” for the purpose of procreation. They are built such that they cannot do as much of some things strenuously whilst they bearing a child. Adam, doing his job correctly, would have stepped in to defend/protect Eve... Protecting her, would have caused him to be assessed as passing the test for both the male and female aspect of the one flesh couple at that point.

Eve was capable of being deceived. But Adam was NOT deceived and was IN the transgression... New testament says she WAS deceived... and points the finger of culpability directly at Adam. it is in ADAM that death from one passed to us all.

Adam being sinless, could have been a holy sacrifice in some manner... but we see that THE Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the earth. PRIOR to the fall.

my very vain consideration since biblically the predetermination of God about the Lamb being slain in prehistory, is true... did Adam know THAT fact before he brought death to our species?

Did he know that when Satan approached Eve and her husband WITH her... in the garden. Scripture does not say. if essential for mankind... God would have told us somehow... maybe Adam was privy to some of the counsel of God, and the fall was a known part of the plan that Adam a role to play. God clearly planned for it, in the Word made flesh... God, the Son. Jesus loved being called the Son of Man.

Totally vain speculation and musings on my part. Still, it has implications about how we assume that we do so many things by “choice”.


16 posted on 09/27/2022 6:55:31 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Because of the way Scripture reads, I believe that Adam ate the fruit to please Eve. We know that Adam was lonely so God created her for him. I still think that he’d look at her and think “Va Va Voom!”


20 posted on 09/27/2022 7:33:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
"Adam being sinless, could have been a holy sacrifice in some manner... but we see that THE Lamb of God was slain before the foundation of the earth. PRIOR to the fall."

And it is not enough to be sinless (as an infant also is) in order to be the perfect atonement, but one must also be righteous, passing the test of the desire of the flesh, and of possessions, and of prestige/pride, all of which Eve sinned in, (Genesis 3:6) while Christ did not, (Matthew 4:1-11)

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Hebrews 4:15-16) Thanks be to God.

37 posted on 09/29/2022 1:38:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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