Posted on 07/28/2022 2:16:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Nobody was ever more justly hanged” — Nathaniel Hawthorne
According to some, John Brown’s body lies a’mouldering in a grave.
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How does this logic/perspective apply to the Christian insurrectionists who we refer to as the Founding Fathers?
Terrorist.
And what most people don't know is that in his first inaugural, he called for the passage of an amendment to the US Constitution which made slavery permanent.
When you look on his entire life, you begin to realize he was a lying politician in it just for the power and money, but good with public relations and flowery speeches.
Lincoln was an excellent flim-flam man. That was why he was such a good lawyer.
Oh, and he was an atheist for most of his life.
Looking at the last 2000 years or so of Western history, it is not unreasonable to see John Brown as being in line with Christian tradition, if not Christ’s teaching.
He was a psychopathic, arguably genocidal, murderer who saw himself as an enforcer of Christian principle. How this differentiates him from Bishop Theophilus who burned the Library at Alexandria, the Christians who killed the female mathematician, Hypolita, the Crusaders who killed every Jew and Muslim in Jerusalem during the First Crusade, the Spanish Inquisition, the genocidal treatment of Native Americans and the collaboration of millions of European Christians including Pope Pius XII in the Holocaust.
I could easily continue.
John 8:44
Simulation!
A couple hours ago I excerpted a few lines of Pete Seeger lyrics.
“. . . not unreasonable to see John Brown as being in line with Christian tradition, if not Christ’s teaching.”
You are very wise to draw a distinction between “tradition” and Christ’s teaching.
Still, your post comes across to me as a smear of Christianity; but maybe you intended something else.
Christian practice pretty much from Constantine’s adoption of it for the Roman Empire to Martin Luther’s nailing of the 95 Theses on the Wittenberg Cathedral was truly horrible. It was ISIS Taliban level awful. Even afterward, much of Europe was still bathed in violent ignorance. Tsarist Russia and the Iberian Peninsula come to mind.
John Brown was more dangerous than David Koresh
This outright lie of yours disqualifies anything further you have to say.
As an example, after the Reconquista pushing back Islamic conquests in Iberia, mobs and Spanish nobles were known for torturing and abusing suspected heretics. The Catholic Church stepped in to say, not unreasonably, that illiterate mobs and nobles shouldn't be the ones deciding who was and was not a Christian. Thus the Inquisition was born, not as an extremist effort of the Catholic church but the opposite, to squash the extremism of those whose affiliation with the church was often weak and questionable itself.
Ironically, judgmental critics like you portray the Inquisition as an example of Christian extremism. But it was part of a religious body that had long gone off the rails in abandoning Christian faith and teaching itself. And as a result its mission to hunt and prosecute heretics became focused on actual Christians as the Reformation got under way.
Ignorant critics fail to understand that anyone who said they were not a Christian was automatically outside the scope of the Inquisition and immediately shown the door (what happened to them after they stepped into the street was another matter, of course.) It was Christians like myself who were hunted and persecuted by the Inquisition. And now have to deal with fools who get their understanding of the Inquisition exactly backwards today.
John Brown is the very model of an insurrectionist.
Not some parade goers like Jan 6th.
Not going to indulge your refusal to face the truth. Yes, the Corwin Amendment makes slavery permanent so far as Lincoln was concerned.
R E Lee, a genuine Christian gentleman and one of the true giants in the American panoply is being erased from history by evil pygmies.
John Brown was a psychopath who enjoyed murdering people and salivated at the thought of ignighting a race war that would have killed untold thousands. The shit bird that wrote the article for CT is no better. There is no compromise with the woke human garbage.
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