I and many others beleive they are saved, but just not .iving close to God. One can be saved and lukewarm, saved and backlsidden, not living for him as they should. Paul spoke to such churches calling them brethren, not “former brethtren”. Christ said of certain saved people that he wil. Hand them over to,gheir sinź thjs doesnt mean they lost their salvstion, only that since they wont lesve the sins they are caught in, they wil, have to suffer fhe ck sequences of their decisions. There are those thougn thst beleive they are not saved. I disagree. I’ll leave it at that as it can be a contentious subject.
Still, I don't think I'd want to be upchucked by Jesus.