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To: metmom
I think there's a difference between Judge and Discern.
Too many people call discern (Discernment), Judgement.
You can discern what someone is saying and doing, apply the necessary correction as our Lord want's us to do without Judgement.

Am I off base here???
12 posted on 06/16/2022 7:12:21 AM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: glaseatr

No you are not, and great point. God demands that we be discerning in our day to day life. He tells us not to,even sit with an angry man and have a meal,with them (because befriending such people will lead to,compromising on the part of the Christian and a falling away eventually possibly), so obviously we have to discern who is an angry man and who isn’t, and it’s not too hard to discern such things. God also would not want us hanging around criminals and such except to witness to them. We must discern who is a criminal, or deviant or whatever, and take steps to keep from getting invovled with their lifestyles

.I ing in the cleaning fire of God’s presence means we MUST shut our eyes to evil (ie do not look upon it lustfully), shut our minds to evil (do not revel,in filthy living), and keep from following those who hate God, because it risks our falling away and sinning and having to,be judged by God for our falling too. So,to,do,these things, we must discern who is,,ikely to lead us astray by their ungodly lifestyles (Note, this is different than “be in the workd but not of the world. hanging out with godless people because we enjoy their company and lerhaps their lifestyle is what is being talked about here).

We can’t judge such people, because they may infxct be saved but severely backlaidden, we can’t know for sure real,y, but we can and must use discernment to avoid falling back ourselves.

I think a lot of what people call judgement is really not judgement, but wise discernment. Obviously saying something like “so,and so isn’t saved and is going to hell” based on how they live is judgement, whereas saying “so and so lives an ungodly life thst I don’t want to constsntly be around and immersed in because it will affect my relationship with God Is wise discernment.


13 posted on 06/16/2022 7:42:17 AM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: glaseatr

No, you are correct.

God has given us His standards and Jesus told us to judge with righteous judgment.


15 posted on 06/16/2022 10:44:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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