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To: Philsworld
Every time you try to play gotcha, cultist, you expose your ignoranc e. Salvatiion cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. During the Age of Grace there is not a distinction between Jew or Gentile. The Age of Grace is about to end with the Rapture removal of ALL spirits in Christ. THEN God institutes the sebentieth week of Daniel's prophecy, to put an end to sin in ISRAEL. So God is not through with Israel.

It is you who calls Paul a liar by contradicting what he worte for us under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It is Paul who told you that the redeemed have the righteousness of Christ abiding in them. It is Paul who tells you that those under Grace are not under the law of Moses. It is paul who tells you to not fall prey to those 'other religions' which contradict the Grace of God by weaseling in your works, as if the God Who created the entire Universe needs anything from you to complete what ONLY JESUS could do and to Whom is due ALL THE GLORY. You remian dead in your trespasses and sins so long as you try toplead your righteousness un der the law, a law which you have been told by Peter and others NO MAN COULD KEEP. You are the dead soul contradicting the advice from the First Ekklesia Council which told you it seemed good to the Holy SPirit and them to write their letter. You remain dead in spirit..

742 posted on 05/24/2022 10:40:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

PING to my 743, MHG.


“During the Age of Grace there is not a distinction between Jew or Gentile. The Age of Grace is about to end with the Rapture removal of ALL spirits in Christ. THEN God institutes the sebentieth week of Daniel’s prophecy, to put an end to sin in ISRAEL. So God is not through with Israel.”


Very good post, MHG. VERY GOOD.

Phil is incapable of distinguishing the Church from Israel, however. He’s been misled, is deceived and loves it. He is Israel, lol. I bet he takes the blessings promised Israel but none of the curses promised them ... just like every other cult.


744 posted on 05/24/2022 11:01:17 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: MHGinTN

——>THEN God institutes the sebentieth week of Daniel’s prophecy, to put an end to sin in ISRAEL. So God is not through with Israel.

That only works if you believe in FUTURISM, which you do. You believe the lies of the Jesuits.

The 70th week follows the 69th week in chronological order. The entire 490 year (70 week) prophecy is the first part of the longer 2300 year prophecy and cannot be separated.

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Dan 9:24

This verse sets the goals of the 70 week prophecy of Daniel.

(A) “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,”

- This sets the time period at 70 weeks. It is generally accepted here that you must use the day = year prophecy formula (Num 14:34, Ezek 4:6), yielding a time period of 490 years from start to completion.

- The word determined here actually means “cut off”. This 70 weeks are cut off from, or begin at the same time as, the larger 2300 day (year) prophecy of Dan 8:14, which has as it’s focus the cleansing of the sanctuary in heaven, the beginning of Judgment. So both the 70 week (490 year) and the 2300 day (year) prophecy begin at the same date. Note that you can not arbitrarily apply the year for a day principle in one case and not another, you must remain consistent. Dan 8:26 strongly hints that the 2300 day prophecy in verse 14 is not just 2300 days, but many days more than it literally indicates. This would also support using year instead of day.

http://aloha.net/~mikesch/dan927.htm

You use the FUTURISM “GAP” THEORY, created by the Jesuits. You follow the Jesuits and have been fooled/hoodwinked. You misapply the word of God. Shame on you. Did you learn that from the false teachings of Ken Johnson and Andy Woods, or their Prophecy Watcher friends?


745 posted on 05/24/2022 11:38:13 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN; SouthernClaire

Dan 9:27

(A) “And he [Jesus] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:”

- Some would claim that the “he” could not refer to Jesus since his ministry on earth was only 3 1/2 years in length. They try to apply this to the antichrist (the prince who shall come in verse 26) and a 7 year peace treaty (covenant) with the Jews. Note the following, verses in red were spoken by Jesus-

Rom 15:8 (KJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

1 Chron 16:13-18 (KJV)

13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.
14 He is the Lord our God; his judgments are in all the earth.
15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;
16 Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac;
17 And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant,
18 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance;

Psalms 105:8-11 (KJV)

8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:
Matt 10:5-6 (KJV)

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matt 15:21-24 (KJV)

21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

(NIV) Mat 26:28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

(KJV) Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

(NIV) Mark 14:24 “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many,” he said to them.

- During this 70th week, the Gospel was preached only to the Jews.

- The event that ends the 70 weeks is the stoning of Stephen as found in Acts 7:59. At that point the Gospel was no longer preached exclusively to the Jews, Peter and Paul having been shown by vision to begin preaching to Gentiles (Acts 10 & 22:17-21). (See also Acts 11:18, 13:46, 14:27, 15:9, 18:6). The Jews are no longer the exclusively chosen people of God (Gal 3:28). See also the parable of Mark 12:1 and Luke 20:9. The original husbandmen (the Jews) of the vineyard are rejected, and replaced, never to tend the vineyard again. This does not mean they have been rejected as individuals. They can still be saved by faith in Jesus like anyone else. Promises made to the Jewish nation have been rejected by the Jews due to their unbelief, so the fulfillment of those promises will be made to those of faith, regardless of national origin (Gal 3:29).

- So the final week of the 70 week period left to the Jews continues unbroken from the baptism of Jesus in 27 A.D. thru to 34 A.D., to confirm and fulfill (seal up) the prophecy of Daniel.

(B) “and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,”

- In the middle of the week, in 31 A.D., Jesus is crucified, bringing an end to the symbolic temple sacrifices, which were a type (shadow) of his sacrifice at the cross. This is confirmed by the tearing of the veil in the Temple at the instant of his death, exposing the most holy place (Mat 27:51, Mark 15:38, Luke 23:45) signaling the end of the typical earthly sacrificial priesthood and the begining of.the priestly ministry of Jesus. The fact that Temple ceremonies continued until 70 A.D. is irrelevant.

(C) “and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,”

- The temple in Jerusalem will remain desolate, lacking the presence of God, until the end of time. (Mat 23:38-39, Luke 13:35)

- Whether the Jews rebuilt the temple or not is irrelevant. It will remain in desolation. In fact, rebuilding the Temple and a resumption of Temple sacrifices would be the ultimate manifestation of unbelief and a complete rejection of Jesus Christ, the Messiah. It would be an abomination.

(D) “and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

- This has an initial application with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 A.D. The Roman armies first surrounded Jerusalem in 66 A.D. and then withdrew for some unexplained reason. The believing Jews understood Mat 24:15 to apply to them and they fled the city at this opportunity. The Roman armies soon returned and laid siege to Jerusalem, resulting in it’s fall in 70 A.D. At that time thousand of Jews were slaughtered, not one of them was Christian. So this part of verse 27 finds fulfillment in 70 A.D. It may also be interpreted that Jerusalem and the temple will remain desolate of God until the execution of Judgment on the wicked, beginning with the last 7 plagues. That is to say Jesus will not dwell with His people until He does so after the second coming when the righteous dead are raised and the living are transformed, and they all join Him in the clouds (Rev 21:22).

CONCLUSION

The 70 weeks were 490 literal years that were a period of probationy for national Israel:

Dan 9:24-27 (KJV)

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem [457 B.C., Ezra 7] unto [the coming of] the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks [7 + 62 = 69 weeks, 27 A.D.]: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two [62] weeks shall Messiah [the prince] be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of [Messiah] the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he [Messiah the Prince] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week [7 years]: and in the midst of the [70th] week [31 A.D.] he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [be crucified as the lamb of God], and for [because of] the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Note that unlike futurists, this interpretation does not find any reference to the Antichrist, or a 7 year peace treaty signed with the Jews, or a broken peace treaty / desecration of the Temple by the antichrist, or a 7 year tribulation. I think the evidence presented here shows that the focus of the 70 weeks of Daniel is a fixed 490 year ultimatum to the Jews and a prediction of the baptism and crucifixion of Jesus, as well as pointing to the start of judgment at the end of the 2300 years. Since the Jews did not repent of their transgressions, and rejected the Christ, their Temple and city were destroyed and the survivors scattered. So now the Gospel is preached to one and all, which began at the end of the 70th week, in 34 A.D.

http://aloha.net/~mikesch/dan927.htm


746 posted on 05/24/2022 11:41:49 AM PDT by Philsworld
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