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What did Jesus do with the two who were on their way to Damascus? He opened for their understanding the written scriptures which were sufficient to detail Him and His coming. THAT would be the kind of Bible study mankind needs so profoundly now ... and it is written before there was even a New Testament of Him and His Body of Believers (established int he same fashion as He explained to Nicodemus in John 3 and the brass snake raised up in the desert). It is by belief that salvation is obtained, not by any works we may or may not do.

Jesus told you that blasphemies against Him, against His sacrifice for you can be forgiven, but blasphemies against the Holy Spirit WILL NOT be forgiven. Which blasphemy is committed by miss-characterizing the remebrance ritual of bread and wine?

And finally, our friend Elsie made a most profound posting when he noted for us all that the proof of Jesus using simile is displayed on the night in which Jesus was betrayed, when He in person took bread and broke it and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body about to be sacrificed for you. Elsie noted that there would be two bodies there if the bread was really the body of the Christ breaking the bread! In that profound realization it is plain that Jesus was using the bread to SIGNIFY His body and the wine to SIGNIFY His blood. Jesus further poured out the last cup of wine, calling it wine, the last cup in the Passover ritual. And He referred to it as wine and further told His disciples that He would not drink that cup of wine until He dioes it with them in His Father's Kingdom ... we will have passover celebration during the millennial reign of Chrst!

And Paul in relating that scene to his converts cautions them to be discerning of the Body of Christ Believers who might not be as economically fortunate by rejecting those fellow members of the Body of Christ. In rejecting fellow members they would be making themselves guilty of cannibalizing the body and blood of the Savior by not discerning correctly the fellow members making up the Body of Christ Ekklesia.

On the night He was betrayed, He had His discioples particiopate in the Blood of Christ by using the symbols to point to the actual. In so doing they are SPIRITUALLY partaking of / participating in the sacrificial power of His innocent blood shed for them ... and that was an event enacted BEFORE HE SHED HIS BLOOD FOR THEM AND US ON THE CROSS. That juxtaposition of time should be the biggest clue to you that the remembrance is not an actual sacrifice byu a ritual for remembering the power in the Blood of Jesus, power which redeems me nit by drinking His blood but by believing His blood is the power I must have to be redeemed and only He can Grace me with that blood in the spiritual realm, not at a Catholic altar, in the spiritual realm, God is Spirit and MUST BE worshiped in spirit and truth.

Very good post, MHG, which I hope will bless someone with the true meaning of the remembrance of Christ Jesus in the breaking of bread and the drinking of the wine. I think knowing about the true Passover would also greatly help someone to understand, also, and am glad you touched on it in your wonderful post.

Jesus was God then as much as He is now. When he told His disciples to take and eat the broken bread that was His body, He could have easily given a real part of Himself, His body, to them, and given them real blood to drink. That would be no great problem for God to do. After all, did He not turn water into wine? But that would have Him breaking His own law which He said He came to fulfill and to not destroy.

When He handed the disciples actual bread and actual wine, they could not have helped BUT to understand His meaning. We should remember all the times He used metaphors, etc., with His disciples. That was something they were certainly learned about at the time of the Last Supper.

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 What did Jesus do with the two who were on their way to Damascus? He opened for their understanding the written scriptures which were sufficient to detail Him and His coming. THAT would be the kind of Bible study mankind needs so profoundly now ... and it is written before there was even a New Testament of Him and His Body of Believers (established int he same fashion as He explained to Nicodemus in John 3 and the brass snake raised up in the desert). It is by belief that salvation is obtained, not by any works we may or may not do. Jesus told you that blasphemies against Him, against His sacrifice for you can be forgiven, but blasphemies against the Holy Spirit WILL NOT be forgiven.

Man you’re all over the place here...but I still see the Catholic view more than yours. I think you begin by mentioning the 2 disciples on the road to Emmaus... Your take is suppositional .... and attaching “sufficient” to the story is conjecture. Their ears were burning because Jesus was using scripture to show how Christ had to be crucified as foretold in this scriptures. They were defeated, despondent- !ost- when Christ met up with them, and he brought them to “see” him in a celebrated manner- by revealing himself in the breaking of the bread. This is what the scriptures do as accompaniment to the Eucharist- which is what occurs at every Mass- the Liturgy of the Word that builds to the Celebratory nature of the Resurrected Christ- and his victory over death- the Form of every Mass.

We’ve talked about this before.... there was no purpose for Jesus to stay with these disciples at Emmaus and then just disappear on them - UNLESS he was teaching them that HE was the climax the scripture always pointed to- revealing himself to them , finally, in the bread that they shared and consumed. They were blind to Christ until the Bread was consumed...
The brass snake or serpent was the result of Moses interceding (yes, Moses was an intercessor) on behalf of the Israelites who wanted relief from the snakes that they brought God’s wrath upon themselves for rejecting the Divine Manna he sent them to eat in the Desert. (The basis for Paul’s warning to the Corinthians about approaching the Real divine presence in the Bread of Life of Christ.)
So I don’t see how this 1st paragraph makes your position stronger.

 And finally, our friend Elsie made a most profound posting when he noted for us all that the proof of Jesus using simile is displayed on the night in which Jesus was betrayed, when He in person took bread and broke it and gave it to His disciples saying this is my body about to be sacrificed for you. Elsie noted that there would be two bodies there if the bread was really the body of the Christ breaking the bread!

Two NATURES, not two bodies...

Yes indeed... indeed, as they murmured....”How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”

Unfortunately the disciples who would leave, were convinced by the Jews this was not possible.- EITHER literally- OR Symbolically... or what it signified...
they still could not grasp the lesson of the Manna in the desert. Since they could not understand the union of Christ’s two separate natures.... all they saw was his flesh...

It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.+++

we receive all of Christ in the Eucharist- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity... and that’s what Christ was configuring at the Last Supper. I can’t speculate on Scared Mystery. Here’s a better idea of what is going on there.

The simplest way to express what Christ asks us to believe about the Real Presence is that the Eucharist is really He. The Real Presence is the real Jesus. We are to believe that the Eucharist began in the womb of the Virgin Mary; that the flesh which the Son of God received from His Mother at the Incarnation is the same flesh into which He changed bread at the Last Supper; that the blood He received from His Mother is the same blood into which He changed wine at the Last Supper. Had she not given Him His flesh and blood there could not be a Eucharist. We are to believe that the Eucharist is Jesus Christ - simply, without qualification.
It is God become man in the fullness of His divine nature, in the fullness of His human nature, in the fullness of His body and soul, in the fullness of everything that makes Jesus Jesus. He is in the Eucharist with His human mind and will united with the Divinity, with His hands and feet, His face and features, with His eyes and lips and ears and nostrils, with His affections and emotions and, with emphasis, with His living, pulsating, physical Sacred Heart. That is what our Catholic Faith demands of us that we believe. If we believe this, we are Catholic. If we do not, we are not, no matter what people may think we are.
Father John A. Hardon S.J.

* In that profound realization it is plain that Jesus was using the bread to SIGNIFY His body and the wine to SIGNIFY His blood. Jesus further poured out the last cup of wine, calling it wine, the last cup in the Passover ritual. And He referred to it as wine and further told His disciples that He would not drink that cup of wine until He dioes it with them in His Father's Kingdom ... we will have passover celebration during the millennial reign of Chrst!

You can’t isolate scripture like that out of context. Now look at these words and see how they square with your Last Supper “signify”

+++ “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.+++

Now if you choose to isolate that verse- what do you signify that to mean on its own?

 That juxtaposition of time should be the biggest clue to you that the remembrance is not an actual sacrifice byu a ritual for remembering the power in the Blood of Jesus, power which redeems me nit by drinking His blood but by believing His blood is the power I must have to be redeemed and only He can Grace me with that blood in the spiritual realm, not at a Catholic altar, in the spiritual realm, God is Spirit and MUST BE worshiped in spirit and truth.

The Blood from the Passover Lambs was always sprayed onto the Altar in the Temple. The Altar has always been central to Gods need of Sacrifice, being the main purpose of the Temple - Sacrifice.
We are not spirits... we are not in a spiritual realm.... we are in the flesh until we die, until our Resurrected bodies are in Christ.

We still have not got to an understanding about all the talk about blood- when Blood was so taboo as you had shown in the Penta. Why blood... why all this talk about boood when Scripture said- stay away?