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To: SouthernClaire

Hear here! Right on, Sister! ... But then the catholicv org invented replacement theology, to elevate their org above Judaism, replacing the Jews with their org as the chosen people, falsely of course.


255 posted on 05/17/2022 7:12:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

“But then the catholicv org invented replacement theology, to elevate their org above Judaism, replacing the Jews with their org as the chosen people, falsely of course.”

Like mostly every other cult out there, brother. Seems to be a litmus test of sorts as to how a supposed “church” treats God’s chosen people.


260 posted on 05/17/2022 7:36:01 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Bless America)
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To: MHGinTN
But then the catholicv org invented replacement theology, to elevate their org above Judaism,

So how was your vacation you big lug?

I see you are still dealing in falsehoods...

If you're looking for any anti-semitism dust-up.. look no further than German Monk "Brother Martin" who BROKE AWAY from the Catholic Church... to start his own in Germany.
You know WHAT the Church stated 60 years ago in Vat 2 -

Vatican II Declaration Nostra Aetate 4 (1965)
The CHURCH […] cannot forget that she received the revelation of the Old Testament through the people with whom God in His inexpressible mercy concluded the Ancient Covenant. Nor can she forget that she draws sustenance from the root of that well-cultivated olive tree onto which have been grafted the wild shoots, the Gentiles. [...]

The Church- WITH ITS TRADITION BASED The Church keeps ever in mind the words of the Apostle about his kinsmen: "theirs is the sonship and the glory and the covenants and the law and the worship and the promises; theirs are the fathers and from them is the Christ according to the flesh" (Rom. 9:4-5), the Son of the Virgin Mary. She also recalls that the Apostles, the Church's main-stay and pillars, as well as most of the early disciples who proclaimed Christ's Gospel to the world, sprang from the Jewish people.

As Holy Scripture testifies, Jerusalem did not recognize the time of her visitation, nor did the Jews in large number, accept the Gospel; indeed not a few opposed its spreading. Nevertheless, God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their Fathers; He does not repent of the gifts He makes or of the calls He issues-such is the witness of the Apostle. [...]

True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ;(13) still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures.

Why do you persist in the things you say that you know are wrong in the time in which you live?
- or what the Church does NOT believe- that you stubbornly say it does against all evidence?

What is the reason to invent falsehood where there is none?
I'm game for whatever you want to throw my way- but zi would suggest it at least be truthfully relevant.
That is my hope anyway. Furthering this topic, we should also look at the undeniable Jewish Roots of the Christian Faith.
Dr. Bergsma wrote a great book on the DSS and the Jewish rooted Christianity you deny.

“The Church’s liturgy and “sacramental economy”—is“prefigured in the Old Covenant” (CCC 1093). To understand “Christian liturgy,” we must first understand “Jewish liturgy” (CCC 1096). Many ancient Jewish practices and beliefs lie at the roots of the present-day Catholic Mass."

Jewish liturgy and the Mass, especially the Jewish Passover and the Jewish hope for the new manna of the Messiah. Both these aspects of ancient Jewish practice and belief can shed light on Catholic eucharistic practice and belief, revealing that there is much more in common between ancient Judaism and present-day Catholicism than there might seem at first glance. (The Jewish Roots of the Mass, Brant Pitre, PhD, Notre Dame Seminary)

Catholics broke with a tradition of language, and then returned to it, regarding the use of God’s revealed Name. The Jewish High Priest was permitted to say the Name of God one time a year. The rest of the year, God’s Name was YHWH, not spelled correctly, or completely, and not used in any trivial manner. Advertisement - Continue Reading Below In the 1960s, part of the abuses which flooded the church after Vatican II was a rush towards a near hootenanny with folk songs, tambourines, etc. During this phase, one of the folk songs that was used rather extensively was “God of My Salvation”:

The Ark and Tabernacle
Walk into a Catholic church, and there will be a candle burning near the Tabernacle. Why? The Ark of the Covenant was always accompanied by a candle.
Why is this important? What was in the Ark? The stone tablets were there, and a sample of the manna from the desert.
,br> What is in a Catholic Tabernacle? The Bread of Life, Christ Himself. How do we know this to be true? Go back to John chapter 6: Jesus tells the people around Him, “You know the bread from heaven that your ancestors ate in the desert? Well, they still died. I am the Bread of Life, my body is real food, whoever eats of my Flesh will never die.” The Tabernacle contains the Bread of Life.

The Jewish Passover is marked by several cups of wine. When Christ blessed the wine, He told the group that He would not drink of the fruit of the vine again until He drank it with them again new. But He drank it when it was offered to Him at the Crucifixion—what does this mean? He was still correct, the last drink of wine was the completion of the Passover meal, the completion or His Sacrifice, and the completion of His purpose.

When He and the Apostles left the table, the Apostles may have thought that they were simply going out to sing some hymns and come back and finish the last cup of wine. They did not get to finish Passover, but Christ did.


305 posted on 05/17/2022 12:41:41 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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