And you can murder someone if you “are not under the law”
and still stand before God and get your rewards.
That’s FALSE Gospel Heresy.
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So you’re telling me that the Apostle Paul is in Hell right now?
Filthy heretic.
Not acquainted with Moses’s life are you?! And the effort to stand that strawman up is amusing.
And once again, rather than discuss the answers we give to your ‘questions’ you move the goal posts as your mind is manipulated to do. I wash my hands of you. You are under a spiritual blindness darker than I can penetrate.
And you can murder someone if you “are not under the law”
and still stand before God and get your rewards.
You are correct. This is EXACTLY what they believe. You can add rape and adultery to that list (or any other sin for that matter). Keeping God’s eternal, moral, law doesn’t seem to matter to them. Why would it?
Murder
Rape
Adultery
It’s also a completely false accusation.
Romans 6:1-14 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
Now you can stop spreading misrepresentations of what Christians believe since you have been shown to be wrong in your accusations about Christian belief.
Says a member of a religion that honors the likes of Ted Kennedy and Hugo Chavez with Catholic funerals.
A “church” that refuses to exercise church discipline for abortion and homosexual supporting politicians.
A “church” that allows known homosexual pedophile priests to administer its rites and ordinances and protects said sexual offenders by moving them around from parish to parish.
And then Catholics have the chutzpah to point fingers of condemnation at others for not taking sin seriously?
Such rank hypocrisy.
And again, a perfect example of projection.
In context, while Christians are not "under the Law" of even the 10 Commandments for salvation, as meaning obtaining salvation on the basis of the merit of their law keeping, and as meaning under the Mosiac covenant which requires literal observance of everything enjoined therein, including those regarding "meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation" (Hebrews 9:10) and thus being almost constantly unclean at least until the evening, as even marital relations rendered the couple (Leviticus 15:16) and in need of sacrifices for sin;
Yet faith in the risen Lord Christ who loves righteousness, and hates iniquity (Hebrews 1:9) who alone perfectly fulfilled the Law in its full intent and is the supreme standard for righteousness and means obedience to Him by those who are accounted righteous on His account versus under the covenant of law. (Romans 4:5; 10:4) And which believers are thus enabled and rightly motivated to practically "follow after righteousness, Godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness." (1 Timothy 6:11) "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." (Romans 8:3-4)
The error in regard to this issue is basically,
1. That of presuming that the and practical effect of faith, which immediate effect is a holiness of heart (Gal. 4:6) is the Cause of justification, which is the Catholic error (the actual act of baptism being imagined to effect regeneration, and even by proxy faith, with infused charity rendering one good enough to directly go to be with God, but which results in RC (not typically EO) Purgatory when the subject realizes his sinful nature is still quite alive).
2. That of presuming that the and practical effect of faith of the heart unto positional righteousness (Romans 4:5; 10:10) and salvific acceptance with God, (Eph. 1:6) which effect is holiness of heart (Gal. 4:6) and life and which is to be progressive, (Romans 6:16,17) - versus salvation and obedience as being under the covenant of Law (Galatians 3:23-27) means that in effect then justifying faith can be divorced from obedience, but which would not be justifying, Abrahamic type faith which is imputed for righteousness.
Meaning that like as all that we do is a result of what we truly believe - at least at the moment even if contrary to what we profess - so also the nature faith which is imputed for righteousness is that which results in the "obedience of faith" which formally is to normally begin with confessing the Lord Jesus in baptism (which is confession in body language) and onward.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28)
For the redeemed are those who come to God as sinners knowing their desperate need of salvation - not as souls saved by their works or religious heritage but as destitute of any means or merit whereby they may find salvation (Romans 3:9 - 5:1) - and with a humble and penitent heart (that wants a new life following Christ, the Divine Son of God http://peacebyjesus.net/deityofchrist.html) believe on the crucified and risen Lord Jesus who alone can save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood and righteousness. And who thus are baptized and follow Him (John 10:27-29; Acts 8:12; Ephesians 1:7; 2:8-10) - and effectually repent when they find that they failed to do so. (Psalms 32:5,6; 51:3; Hosea 5:15; 1 John 1:9)
Such souls are of penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27,28) and by which faith the believer is completely forgiven and "accepted in the Beloved" and positionally seated with Him in Heaven. Ephesians 1:6; 2:6; cf. Phil. 3:21) And wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for those who die in that effectual faith then it is with the Lord, at death or His return (whatever comes first), by the grace of God. (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17)
Which is in contrast to those who do not accordingly believe in the crucified and risen Lord Jesus, (Romans 10:9,10) including those who terminally fall from grace, impenitently departing from the faith, drawing back unto perdition, making Christ of no effect, to no profit. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:38)
And which is not that of meriting or keeping salvation by works, but that of choosing to do what we first did by the grace of God (meaning the sinner does what he/she otherwise would not and could not do, but God provided salvation and grants repentant faith and works in us to obey), that of believing. Thus it is evident faith which identfies a believer, and persevering in faith is exhorted, versus denying the faith.
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father; Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. (1 Thessalonians 1:3-4)
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned. But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister. (Hebrews 6:8-10)
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. (Hebrews 3:12-13)