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To: metmom
God gives the believer plenty of assurance of their salvation. When one is born again, we are saved NOW, in this present moment. Even Jesus told those who had faith in Him that they were saved, past tense, as in *Your faith has saved you*.

God gives assurance if we Obey his commandments. If we don’t- not so much.

Peter says: repent and be baptized.
For Baptism now SAVES you...
Christ gave Peter the commission to forgive sins...
Totally unnecessary if all we have to do is proclaim ourselves "saved":

We're talking about 2 different religions here.
780 posted on 03/23/2022 8:31:33 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (" I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”)
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To: MurphsLaw
God gives assurance if we Obey his commandments. If we don’t- not so much.

Nope, that’s not God giving assurance then.

It’s a false sense of assurance based on the thinking that our works contribute somehow to our salvation, therefore is we Law keep, we feel like we are good enough and give ourselves a false sense of assurance.

Peter says: repent and be baptized. For Baptism now SAVES you... Christ gave Peter the commission to forgive sins... Totally unnecessary if all we have to do is proclaim ourselves "saved":

Cherry picking and cobbling together two separate passages of Scripture as if they were one leads to false teaching.

Verses must be taken in context of the passage in which they are found. Taking sentence fragments and stringing them together to support already predetermined church doctrine is a misuse and abuse of Scripture and leads to false teaching.

And no one is saved by simply proclaiming themselves to be. You are parroting another Catholic strawman.

791 posted on 03/23/2022 10:00:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: MurphsLaw
God gives assurance if we Obey his commandments. If we don’t- not so much.

Nope, that’s not God giving assurance then.

It’s a false sense of assurance based on the thinking that our works contribute somehow to our salvation, therefore is we Law keep, we feel like we are good enough and give ourselves a false sense of assurance.

Peter says: repent and be baptized. For Baptism now SAVES you... Christ gave Peter the commission to forgive sins... Totally unnecessary if all we have to do is proclaim ourselves "saved":

Cherry picking and cobbling together two separate passages of Scripture as if they were one leads to false teaching.

Verses must be taken in context of the passage in which they are found. Taking sentence fragments and stringing them together to support already predetermined church doctrine is a misuse and abuse of Scripture and leads to false teaching.

And no one is saved by simply proclaiming themselves to be. You are parroting another Catholic strawman.

792 posted on 03/23/2022 10:00:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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