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To: kinsman redeemer

It is NOT some magic incantation. God is a judge of the heart.
BUT INFANT baptism is not biblical. It is ineffective because the infant has made no choice.


55 posted on 02/15/2022 6:47:00 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

BUT INFANT baptism is not biblical. It is ineffective because the infant has made no choice.


But only adult baptism does not make it effective either? So what does?

As I have posted here, what baptism are we talking about?

It is not a simple easy question. What does God say on the matter?

Water baptism is a sign to the world. Does it matter when or that it happens and then sometime the rest of it happens. Some churches view this as two stages, infant baptism and then confession of faith. But even those two do not make salvation complete but ARE NECCESSARY.

Now what is the IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY ELEMENT OF SALVATION? What does God say on the matter? I will give you a hint if needed but encourage all to do their own research.

There does not appear to be a proper order, that is a construct of our small human minds. But it is important that all elements are there from God’s perspective.


97 posted on 02/15/2022 7:34:07 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: BereanBrain

::BUT INFANT baptism is not biblical. It is ineffective because the infant has made no choice.::

Exactly:
Verses such as “make your calling and election sure,” “save yourself from this wicked generation,” are commands that a baby in the audience could not fulfill == nor a preteen for the most part.

Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being *not yet born, neither having done any good or evil,* that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
If sin is the transgression of the law, then a child is sinless until he knows right from wrong and can choose.

All infant baptism does is get the child wet.


179 posted on 02/15/2022 9:14:07 AM PST by NorthStarOkie (You are what you are because that is exactly what you want to be. Marcos Aurelius)
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